Ken Ham lowers attendance expectations for the Ark Park

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?That's why countries with less religion do better in so many ways than religious countries.
Do better in what way? feeding their people? giving them jobs?

What way exactly?
 
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Do better in what way? feeding their people? giving them jobs?
What way exactly?
I think you know in what way, but please don't worry about it because I don't think it would make any difference to what you want to believe, do you?
 
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Unlike the real Ark people just laughed and did not believe Gods message. Today we still have mockers who don't believe a flood even happened. Like in Noah's day Those who refuse to believe in Gods provision for their sins, Jesus Christ, they too will face Goods judgment for rejecting Yahweh, and spend eternity separated from God in His heaven, but in eternal punishment (hell).

Would you please support, Biblically, your statement that people didn't come to the real ark? That they laughed? That they didn't believe God's message (presumably, that a flood was coming)?
 
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Would you please support, Biblically, your statement that people didn't come to the real ark? That they laughed? That they didn't believe God's message (presumably, that a flood was coming)?
Please read Genesis Chapters 6-9. I am assuming the people made fun of Noah building the Ark year after year, and poking fun and most likely laughing at him. They had never seen any kind of boat before. It was really big.
 
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Please read Genesis Chapters 6-9. I am assuming the people made fun of Noah building the Ark year after year, and poking fun and most likely laughing at him. They had never seen any kind of boat before. It was really big.
Or it is just a story in the Bible. How do you explain the total lack of phsical evidence for a worldwide flood?
 
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Or it is just a story in the Bible. How do you explain the total lack of phsical evidence for a worldwide flood?

How do you think sea shells are found on top of some of the highest mountains? Look there will never be enough evidence to convince you, so why dialogue about it. You have no desire to believe the Biblical truths about Noah or the flood. Why spend mine or your time on this. I have better things to do than argue about this.
 
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How do you think sea shells are found on top of some of the highest mountains? Look there will never be enough evidence to convince you, so why dialogue about it. You have no desire to believe the Biblical truths about Noah or the flood. Why spend mine or your time on this. I have better things to do than argue about this.

I see that you do not understand the nature of evidence, that is a frequent problem for science deniers. You need to learn some basic geology. Many shallow seas, usually on the edge of continents, became mountains due to plate tectonics. The plain and simple truth is that there is no scientific evidence for your beliefs. My beliefs are supported by scientific evidence. Perhaps we should go over what scientific evidence is first. If you want to have a science based discussion you need to understand what is and what is not evidence.
 
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I see that you do not understand the nature of evidence, that is a frequent problem for science deniers. You need to learn some basic geology. Many shallow seas, usually on the edge of continents, became mountains due to plate tectonics. The plain and simple truth is that there is no scientific evidence for your beliefs. My beliefs are supported by scientific evidence. Perhaps we should go over what scientific evidence is first. If you want to have a science based discussion you need to understand what is and what is not evidence.


I have no desire to offend or out word your words. We do not agree. Call me anything you like. If I am wrong in believing in God and the Bible I have lost nothing. What have you lost if you are wrong? I really do not want to go face to face with you. I don't dislike you, and I will not waste your time or mine. DONE.
 
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I think you know in what way, but please don't worry about it because I don't think it would make any difference to what you want to believe, do you?
I don't worry about it.

This Christian nation's Bill of Rights insures no pogrom will occur legally on its soil.

Not even by atheists.

(Scientists have found a way around that though by plutoing a Biblical term and using it as a loophole; but God isn't fooled.)
 
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Please read Genesis Chapters 6-9. I am assuming the people made fun of Noah building the Ark year after year, and poking fun and most likely laughing at him. They had never seen any kind of boat before. It was really big.

I have read those chapters many times. That's why I'm asking for support for the statement.
 
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How do you think sea shells are found on top of some of the highest mountains? Look there will never be enough evidence to convince you, so why dialogue about it. You have no desire to believe the Biblical truths about Noah or the flood. Why spend mine or your time on this. I have better things to do than argue about this.
A 150 day flood wouldnt bring seashells up to the highest mountain tops. Seashells are heavier than water. Shell bound creatures couldnt possible migrate there in a mere 150 days.
 
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A 150 day flood wouldnt bring seashells up to the highest mountain tops. Seashells are heavier than water. Shell bound creatures couldnt possible migrate there in a mere 150 days.
Would a 150 day flood cause the ground to break up and geysers of water shooting up into the air?
 
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Doubt it. Do you think it would?
No.

But your remark about seashells being heavier than water doesn't cut it.

I'm sure the turmoil was so great during the Flood, that a steam roller would have been tossed around by the currents like a stick.
 
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But your remark about seashells being heavier than water doesn't cut it.

I'm sure the turmoil was so great during the Flood, that a steam roller would have been tossed around by the currents like a stick.
Yet an ark carrying all the animals had no trouble staying upright, it must have been another miracle.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. Sir Walter Scott
creationism is lies created for and believed by the uneducated.
 
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But your remark about seashells being heavier than water doesn't cut it.

I'm sure the turmoil was so great during the Flood, that a steam roller would have been tossed around by the currents like a stick.
But they are in limestone, you don't get limestone from floods.
 
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Yet a ark carrying all the animals had no trouble staying upright, it must have been another miracle.
I'd say that's about the size of it.
 
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