I would like to discuss these two verse. I want to lay a few ground rules. So many other threads on once saved always saved are all over the place and barely ever stay on track.
Rule 1
stay on these two verses.
Answer previous posters questions before asking your own. Most important. If someone addresses you specifically answer them and then ask your own.
Assume everyone is debating to gain a better understanding of scripture
Never assume anyone is attacking anyone, or talking down to. It is hard to tell the tone of a persons voice in text.
Be respectful it's ok to disagree.
Knowing the rules
Let's discuss
John 6:38-39 says
“For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.”
John 6:38-39 ESV
This to me says that once one has truly given themselves to Christ and God has given Christ them, they are saved.
Because Jesus carries out the will of the father he can not fail.
If someone is saved and then they lose their salvation then that would be mean Jesus failed at carrying out the will of his father.
That can't happen.
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Rule 1
stay on these two verses.
Answer previous posters questions before asking your own. Most important. If someone addresses you specifically answer them and then ask your own.
Assume everyone is debating to gain a better understanding of scripture
Never assume anyone is attacking anyone, or talking down to. It is hard to tell the tone of a persons voice in text.
Be respectful it's ok to disagree.
Knowing the rules
Let's discuss
John 6:38-39 says
“For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day.”
John 6:38-39 ESV
This to me says that once one has truly given themselves to Christ and God has given Christ them, they are saved.
Because Jesus carries out the will of the father he can not fail.
If someone is saved and then they lose their salvation then that would be mean Jesus failed at carrying out the will of his father.
That can't happen.
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