Iran: Land of the crazy people

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Merely the fact that the US's military is arguably the best in the world, does not mean that the nation can't be brought to ruin. The US is already being brought to its knees in many respects. Not to mention the fact that God might decided he's had enough of them, and their lawless parade.
I'm certain that the nations sins will soon catch up with it, but not today. Perhaps in about twenty years or about.
 
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I'm certain that the nations sins will soon catch up with it, but not today. Perhaps in about twenty years or about.

The fact that this nation has fallen so low as to reelect Obama is proof that we are due for judgment soon. His actions over the next four years are on our heads, collectively.
 
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The fact that this nation has fallen so low as to reelect Obama is proof that we are due for judgment soon. His actions over the next four years are on our heads, collectively.

Yeah, I don't see how that managed to happen. People are always trying to become or stay middle class. Yet in this country, the middle class carries the lower class on their backs, while they get stomped on by the upper class. Our government rewards people to do nothing but sit on their butts and collect medicare every month. So its no wonder the lowers re-elected his incompetent behind.
 
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Yeah, I don't see how that managed to happen. People are always trying to become or stay middle class. Yet in this country, the middle class carries the lower class on their backs, while they get stomped on by the upper class. Our government rewards people to do nothing but sit on their butts and collect medicare every month. So its no wonder the lowers re-elected his incompetent behind.

First of all, son, people who are on Medicare have PAID into it all their lives. And then, after paying into it, they still must have enough work credits to receive the benefits they have contributed into the pot. After about 40 years of paying into it you might have the right to complain about those who have to survive on it. At the tender age of 20, you truly do not have that kind of authority nor knowledge of it.

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We do not COLLEDT Medicare! We actually have to pay into it still! So you see, you spoke wrongly about something you know nothing about.
 
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Yeah, I don't see how that managed to happen. People are always trying to become or stay middle class. Yet in this country, the middle class carries the lower class on their backs, while they get stomped on by the upper class. Our government rewards people to do nothing but sit on their butts and collect medicare every month. So its no wonder the lowers re-elected his incompetent behind.

So then, you think we should go back to the old days and let the quadriplegic, blind, elderly, and whoever else die in the streets?
 
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First of all, son, people who are on Medicare have PAID into it all their lives. And then, after paying into it, they still must have enough work credits to receive the benefits they have contributed into the pot. After about 40 years of paying into it you might have the right to complain about those who have to survive on it. At the tender age of 20, you truly do not have that kind of authority nor knowledge of it.

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We do not COLLEDT Medicare! We actually have to pay into it still! So you see, you spoke wrongly about something you know nothing about.

Old age isn't a guarantee of wisdom or knowledge. You don't seem to have thought it through. I very much doubt the government has little accounts for each and every working citizen. It would take up too much server space, and require too much management. A more probable train of thought would be that they collect medicare from working individuals, and stick it all in a big pot. Then disperse it accordingly.

My money is being stolen just the same as a 40 year olds. I have every right to complain.

So then, you think we should go back to the old days and let the quadriplegic, blind, elderly, and whoever else die in the streets?

I think the money shouldn't be stolen from other individuals. But that the family should be responsible. And after them, the church.
 
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Iran's defense minister confirmed that Iranian jets fired at a U.S. drone last week and said Tehran would do it again,...
Logic and reason is not possible with crazy people.

I don't have a problem with that. They are merely protecting themselves. The US would do the same.

What do you expect?

Do you think Tehran to be welcoming the drones (which are used to assinate people and blow up schools by accident etc) with flowers and Mickey Mouse flags thanking Uncle Sam for the liberty of bringing cheaper access to great American TV shows like Storage Wars?
 
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Yeah, I don't see how that managed to happen. People are always trying to become or stay middle class. Yet in this country, the middle class carries the lower class on their backs, while they get stomped on by the upper class. Our government rewards people to do nothing but sit on their butts and collect medicare every month. So its no wonder the lowers re-elected his incompetent behind.

Note to young poster: Laissez-faire capitalism (eg. what you probably are unknowingly voting for) doesn't work at keeping a strong middle class, but always ends up in larger disparity. eg. the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. Hence, governments including the holy and all-knowing GOP, try to put in checks and balances. One of those is proper medical care, a human right that should not have an insurance sized price tag.

I am a US citizen now living in a country with full, proper, socialized medical care. It's awesome. It costs me around a dollar a day in a levy, which if I were to take out private cover I would get back. We also have proper, generous socialized unemployment cover and much more. Let me tell you- there's hardly a beggar on the street. Unemployment is lower than the US. Taxes are high but life is secure, safe and comfortable and the poorest of the poor still get fed and don't have to lose their homes if they get sick. Sure, we have the poor. I help them all the time. But it's not a serious social scandal slitting the spiritual throat of the society like it is in so much of the US. Yes I blame the system, not the individual, for the problem.

All the junk your media feeds you about the "evils" of what they erroneously call "socialism" is just baloney and propaganda. A balanced, mixed economy is about building a real civilization where opportunity is not based on wealth, where even the poor can afford to get an education, live a healthy life and pursue "life and liberty".
 
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I don't have a problem with that. They are merely protecting themselves. The US would do the same.

What do you expect?

Do you think Tehran to be welcoming the drones (which are used to assinate people and blow up schools by accident etc) with flowers and Mickey Mouse flags thanking Uncle Sam for the liberty of bringing cheaper access to great American TV shows like Storage Wars?

The drone was in international air space when fired upon.
 
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The fact that this nation has fallen so low as to reelect Obama is proof that we are due for judgment soon. His actions over the next four years are on our heads, collectively.

That's how I felt about GW Bush. We didn't see the end of the world - and neither will you. This is simple fearmongering.
 
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I don't have a problem with that. They are merely protecting themselves. The US would do the same.

What do you expect?

Do you think Tehran to be welcoming the drones (which are used to assinate people and blow up schools by accident etc) with flowers and Mickey Mouse flags thanking Uncle Sam for the liberty of bringing cheaper access to great American TV shows like Storage Wars?
Good points, as it's easy to believe that they are people as well and have a right to self-determination/wanting to protect themselves, be it the Iranian Jews or the Arabs in the land. It's not as if they're all "terrorists" and often we act as if they should simply accept the labels/aggression given to them and treat it as if their reactions are wrong all the time. Noam Chomsky shared some excellent thoughts on the issue which really made me think:


 
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people who are on Medicare have PAID into it all their lives. And then, after paying into it, they still must have enough work credits to receive the benefits they have contributed into the pot. After about 40 years of paying into it you might have the right to complain about those who have to survive on it.
For the elderly, who are often dependent on it alongside other social services - especially if/when they have disabilities -or those who are impoverished/struggling, folks forget how beneficial services are.
 
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