Ian McKellen Admits to Ripping Pages from The Bible

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This woman may have been moved by a reading from the Gideons bible.

This woman potentially (I'm not a doctor) suffers from a mental illness. It is of course very important that the mentally ill are cared for, but that shouldn't destroy freedom of access to information for everyone.
 
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This woman potentially (I'm not a doctor) suffers from a mental illness. It is of course very important that the mentally ill are cared for, but that shouldn't destroy freedom of access to information for everyone.

Very true sir.
 
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I laughed a bit when I watched that video. Poor woman suffering so much.

I burned some bibles myself. Really, it's not as easy as people would think. THere'd kindling issues... (bible pages make good kindling, btw) Correct amount of air flow to the flames. The covers themselve don't burn well, so they have to be taken off and buried some place. (They are, however, extremely biodegradable.)

Reasons? 'Cause I could. Perhaps it sheds some light on the issue for y'all.
 
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Notice how many people actually go to this church, and note the response from Christians about what they're doing. Do you really think it's accurate to say that 'Christians burn Bibles too' when the groups that do are fringe groups?
Is it accurate to make claims about gays and lesbians based on film clips of fringe groups at a gay pride parade?
 
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Is it accurate to make claims about gays and lesbians based on film clips of fringe groups at a gay pride parade?
Depends on what the claims are. If the claim is that they're gay...
 
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I saw this whole episode. Its amazing. I would love to talk to this women face to face. I would show her the face of evil (with my handy dandy mirror)


Buddhists are so dark-sided!!!!
 
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This woman may have been moved by a reading from the Gideons bible.

Is that for real? Yikes! :help: That's from one of those "wife-swap" shows, right? I don't usually like watching those shows, but I might make an exception in this case, just to see what on Earth could have made her flip out so bad. I actually feel sorry for that woman, to be so fearful of non-Christians. I'm just glad that she's not representative of Christianity as a whole, as that would really make me scared (I have found a lot of fundie websites out there that remind me of this lady though).

As far as Ian McKellen's ripping out pages of Bibles, I think it's a bit silly and morally suspect, but on the whole seems rather harmless. I think he should stop doing it, but I think that very few people are ever even going to notice a few missing pages of Leviticus in their hotel Bibles.

As for the speculation earlier in the thread that he was just trying to lash out against something he knew in his heart was true, I think that that's a load of rubbish. It is very easy to play armchair psychologist, but I think any time you assume that someone who believes differently from you *really* believes what you do, you're probably wrong. In any event, there's plenty more likely reasons for his behaviour. Is hatred of something that has been used as an excuse for exreme violence against people with same-sex attraction, not a very plausible reason for such a silly and emotional outburst? It seems more likely anyway.
 
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*Ahem, before this comes to a 'no true Scotsman argument' I shall try to define what is Christian and what is occult.

Apostles Creed

I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:

Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;

He descended into hell.

The third day He arose again from the dead;

He ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Ghost;
the holy catholic church;
the communion of saints;
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body;
and the life everlasting.

Amen.

If someone does not believe that, they are considered occult not Christian.

(Also those who write their own books for the Bible, or burn Bibles that are sound in their interpretation.)
 
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*Ahem, before this comes to a 'no true Scotsman argument' I shall try to define what is Christian and what is occult.

Apostles Creed

I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:

Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;

He descended into hell.

The third day He arose again from the dead;

He ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Ghost;
the holy catholic church;
the communion of saints;
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body;
and the life everlasting.

Amen.

If someone does not believe that, they are considered occult not Christian.

(Also those who write their own books for the Bible, or burn Bibles that are sound in their interpretation.)
What do you mean by 'occult'?
 
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