How tall were the Nephilim

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The Smithsonian collected many remains of large human remains and destroyed them because these remains did not fit the narrative.


The Smithsonian would give their right arm for an archeological find like that!!
 
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There is also no mention in the scriptures of how tall Adam and Eve were. This passage merely says that "there were giants in those days" Adam and Eve were created perfect, nothing says they were 5-6 feet tall---they could have been much taller, and the children of tall people are usually even taller than them. It ridiculous to think that a giant of the size that Enoch and these people with their videos claim to have been birthed by women--- even an elephant has a 200 lb baby. The smallest baby to parent ratio is the Panda--and the kangaroo. A giant the size these people claim to have ben born to a human would have still produced a child at least 200 lbs---talk to any obstetrician---can't be carried by any woman. Even a little person can not carry a normal sized baby most of the time---they have to have a C-section and are considered a high risk pregnancy.

Again, this is applying human phsiology to a hybrid situation. There is no way of proving that.
The bible states that angels mated with women.. There is not data to say that the child would not be born of natural size and weight and just continue to grow.

Like I mentioned. The Lyger has no size limiting chromosome. So, it just keeps growing.. Starts of normal size and just grows...

IF a human sized baby, that lived to be 500 to 800 years.. never stopped growing... How are we going to tell how big it would get..

Does the bible not indicate that these nephilime ate so much that the land was suffering. Even to the point of cannibalism. IDK maybe it was the book of Enoch.


Jesus plainly said the angels do not marry---that means no sex. They are only mentioned as having male names. You honestly believe God makes angels with human reproductive systems (they are not human, we are created lower than the angels) but then gives them no females to reproduce with? They are messengers of God, that is what their name means. Nowhere does it say they can reproduce and Jesus says no sex. So NO! The Nephilim are not children of fallen angels. Humans can not have children with apes and they're the closes to us (according to evolutionists, that is) We are as far apart from angels as apes are to us. God says "after their kind." Angels are not our kind.


Jesus said "The angels in heaven" and the bible is clear that the angels who mated with the women.. "left their first estate".. Meaning they left heaven.

Even humans will not marry "In heaven" but.. we certainly did here on earth.

Also. Angels can change to resemble humans and are beautiful.. Look at those that saved Lot and his family... They were desired by the sodomites of Sodom.


Saying "well, angels cannot do that" is weak and has no support. I believe it is wishful thinking but not a solid argument.

How on earth would the "line of Seth" humans with humans.. suddenly produce giants?

Anyway. the "line of Seth" view has been solidly debunked by many theologians.
 
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Numbers 13:33
We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."

Do you think that is metaphorically speaking or do you think the Nephilim were actually that tall, meaning probably hundreds of feet tall if you compare yourself to a grasshopper... I was glancing through a few crazy documentaries on youtube today, and one of them was saying the mount called the Devil's tower actually is the remnance of a Nephilim's foot ??? I was like ok, that person must be on crack or something, then that verse came up. Hmm... What do you think, were the Nephilim as tall as they make them to be?

A giant in ancient times could be anyone over 6ft! 6ft 5 would have been huge!

Again, people misunderstand and misinterpret scripture.

They take from it their own unique beliefs. They believe 'photoshopped' pics from the internet and wild stories on youtube.
 
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The Smithsonian would give their right arm for an archeological find like that!!
Not so fast.....

There are skulls being found all over the world.. But, mostly in Peru. L.A. Marzulli and Brien Foerster and some others, were trying to get labs to do DNA tests on them.


You would think, as you have stated, that science would be all over that...

Well.. No lab wanted any part of it... Then, one lab did the tests... were paid but refused to give the results.

Finally, they got three labs to do the tests.. You can look up the results.. They show some human traits but I have not bought the book and the guys that spent their own money need to recover their costs...to get the whole picture and results..

One point that Brien made that they all have mitochondrial DNA that places them in the Black sea area...

Any way... these skulls show a brand new line of being that goes against the grain of accepted history....

Why... why... why is this not all over the news?

Also, in Exodus Patterns in Evidence... a great documentary.. in the end they prove that the common accepted history and timing of the Hebrews in Egypt.. is flawed.. They bring it to the head of antiquities and he states, on camera "we're not going to change our story".


So, new evidence... flawed history.... new evidence that proves Biblical time lines and Biblical truth.. but... they won't present it.


The Atheistic, Darwinian, evolutionist camp.... does not want truth.. they want their narrative.

Anything contrary.. no matter how important. No matter how true or real... will be sloughed off, hidden, buried, ignored and out right denied.
 
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Again, this is applying human phsiology to a hybrid situation. There is no way of proving that.
The bible states that angels mated with women.. There is not data to say that the child would not be born of natural size and weight and just continue to grow.

Like I mentioned. The Lyger has no size limiting chromosome. So, it just keeps growing.. Starts of normal size and just grows...

IF a human sized baby, that lived to be 500 to 800 years.. never stopped growing... How are we going to tell how big it would get..

Does the bible not indicate that these nephilime ate so much that the land was suffering. Even to the point of cannibalism. IDK maybe it was the book of Enoch.





Jesus said "The angels in heaven" and the bible is clear that the angels who mated with the women.. "left their first estate".. Meaning they left heaven.

Even humans will not marry "In heaven" but.. we certainly did here on earth.

Also. Angels can change to resemble humans and are beautiful.. Look at those that saved Lot and his family... They were desired by the sodomites of Sodom.


Saying "well, angels cannot do that" is weak and has no support. I believe it is wishful thinking but not a solid argument.

How on earth would the "line of Seth" humans with humans.. suddenly produce giants?

Anyway. the "line of Seth" view has been solidly debunked by many theologians.

No, the bible does not say that. It is what men have decided that says, it was not that from the beginning and the Targums prove it. You've been shown those many times and refuse to accept them. The Jews did not believe that. Just ask any scientist, any gynecologists, any obstetrician---as to what size child a 500 foot man would father. No woman could carry it, and she would not even be able to have sex with the man if he was at all the slightest bit "proportional." It makes no sense. The scriptures say that these were high ranking men of God and of authority, probably priests of God who married women who did not follow God. It still goes on today and God has always opposed it. Their children would have inherited their fathers lofty positions and so they became men of renown. It does say they were MEN. It does not say they were half-breeds of some sort.

What you are saying is that God made these angels unable to procreate with any mates but yet gave them the genetalia and proper semetic fluid that would match the DNA of human females. Even woman have been unable to conceive with their proper mates due to incompatibility with the sperm and egg -- basically being allergic to it and the sperm die. As has been pointed out, we can not reproduce with apes and they are closer in DNA matching to us. God said after their kind and angels are not our kind. God made only male angels, and they can not reproduce. Angels do not have the creative abilities to grow anything. They can "appear" human, but that does not equate to actually growing human male genetalia with compatible DNA to father children with human females. A little study on the subject of human reproduction would clearly show that. They are as far apart from us as we are to apes. I've also heard you people say that God actually changed the fallen angels so they could reproduce!! How stupid is that? Not to mention that makes God a really rather sadistic individual to change their bodies to be able to mate with us, but then kill all the children produced! Sick! God does not make junk. God does not make dysfunctional. He doesn't make what is not needed. Saying that angels are beautiful and that human men desired them makes the angels no more able to reproduce with us than apes. Yes, angels are beautiful---God loves beauty. Elephants are magnificent, beautiful animals---doesn't mean they are able to mate with us! Sodom was full of evil, perverted men who had sex with animals also! There are people today who do this and it is sick, but no children come of it!

Line of Seth---Seth was the offspring of Adam and Eve and has nothing to do with giant offspring except for the fact that Adam and Eve themselves were created perfect and were not as short as modern man. The pre-flood people lived to be over 900 years old, and they were giants who fathered giants. What makes y0ou think they were short? Nothing in the bible states their height and the scriptures just say there were giants in those days and after the flood also. Their age and their heights went down after the flood. It's genetics. There are still pockets of very tall people today, and there were pockets of giants after the flood.
There is no such mention of these giants eating up the landscape--that is more of Enoch garbage. The giants after the flood that the Israelites saw, also grew food that was enormous---they carried a cluster of grapes with 2 people! Doesn't sound like the land was ravished! Look up what produce is produced in Alaska---it is enormous!!If you spend more time with God in His true scriptures you would be better off! We will be giving an account of how we spend our money, our time and our talents. You are totally wasting yours.
You are believing foolish men who have no true understanding of God and make their living making these videos and movies for gullible people to buy so they can have gold plated toilets. If you want to pay for their lavish lifestyle---go right ahead. Satan doesn't care how he leads people astray just as long as they go astray and believe in a false understanding of who God is. If you do not know God---He will not know you.
 
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Because you don't want to know the truth.

From https://www.jacksonville.com/article/20150106/news/801269984

The fantasy originated with a Dec. 3 article published by the World News Daily Report titled “Smithsonian Admits to Destruction of Thousands of Giant Human Skeletons in Early 1900′s.” In that article, the site claimed the Smithsonian suppressed information proving the existence of giants to protect the mainstream chronology of human evolution at the time.

The World News Daily Report is a satire magazine. Read their disclaimer page:

"World News Daily Report is a news and political satire web publication, which may or may not use real names, often in semi-real or mostly fictitious ways. All news articles contained within worldnewsdailyreport.com are fiction, and presumably fake news. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental. ...”

You have been taken in. Skepticism is a highly desirable talent to be acquired.
 
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A giant in ancient times could be anyone over 6ft! 6ft 5 would have been huge!

Again, people misunderstand and misinterpret scripture.

They take from it their own unique beliefs. They believe 'photoshopped' pics from the internet and wild stories on youtube.
Are you sure, Lost?

There are graves near the sight believed to be near where the ark landed.. and they are very large..

There is support to argue that Adam, Eve and others, of that time.. may have actually been taller than us.

Sometimes we get caught up believing that we are the "normal"... and our world is "normal"..

When, it could be that we are little squirts on a world that is lower in O2 and has much different ecology than that before the flood.
 
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The spy's report was false and they were later eliminated ..despite hopeful theories, nephilim dna ended at the flood...a female could not have continued the DNA.

probably hundreds of feet tall if you compare yourself to a grasshopper... I was glancing through a few crazy documentaries on youtube today, and one of them was saying the mount called the Devil's tower actually is the remnance of a Nephilim's foot ???

Well, it ended for the short ones anyway ;)
 
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No, the bible does not say that.

Sorry, say what? I made a few points.

It is what men have decided that says, it was not that from the beginning and the Targums prove it. You've been shown those many times and refuse to accept them. The Jews did not believe that.
The Jews also don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah.

Just ask any scientist, any gynecologists, any obstetrician---as to what size child a 500 foot man would father.
Were the angels that saved Lot 500 feet tall?

Again.. You are applying our "normal" to extenuating facts...

No woman could carry it, and she would not even be able to have sex with the man if he was at all the slightest bit "proportional." It makes no sense.
Your argument is flawed and is voided by your assumptions.

The scriptures say that these were high ranking men of God and of authority, probably priests of God who married women who did not follow God.
Actually it says "Son's of God" which is used in other places, in the bible, to indicate angelic beings. Not humans.

It still goes on today and God has always opposed it. Their children would have inherited their fathers lofty positions and so they became men of renown. It does say they were MEN. It does not say they were half-breeds of some sort.

Other texts from that time, namely "The Book of Jasher", "The Book of Jubilee" and "The Book of Enoch" give better input and support to the canon.

What you are saying is that God made these angels unable to procreate with any mates but yet gave them the genetalia and proper semetic fluid that would match the DNA of human females.

The bible says that we may entertain angels... while being unaware. So, ya.. the option is not ruled out.
There is nothing that says that they could not. I already showed you with the angels who saved Lot.

The DNA did not have to "match" that of humans.. Just be compatible.

If evolutionists can go on wild tangents to believe that somehow all specific animals and life forms.. some how had male and female..... separately and without connection, simultaneously evolve to be fully compatible with their respective opposite sex.. and have the ability to procreate with their specific species...

Then angels defying God... being able to impregnate human women.. is far less of a stretch.

Even woman have been unable to conceive with their proper mates due to incompatibility with the sperm and egg -- basically being allergic to it and the sperm die. As has been pointed out, we can not reproduce with apes and they are closer in DNA matching to us.
Closer than what?

If you watch the presentation on how they arrived at how close we are to monkeys.. You will realize how flawed it is..


God said after their kind and angels are not our kind. God made only male angels, and they can not reproduce.

There is no factual basis to state that angels can't reproduce... That's just a convenient assumption.

Angels do not have the creative abilities to grow anything. They can "appear" human, but that does not equate to actually growing human male genetalia with compatible DNA to father children with human females.

Again, assumption, speculation... not factual.

A little study on the subject of human reproduction would clearly show that. They are as far apart from us as we are to apes. I've also heard you people say that God actually changed the fallen angels so they could reproduce!! How stupid is that?
What if angels, like us, have control over what they do with their bodies... God would look down on it and condemn them for improper use of their abilities.. and punish them...

Oh, wait.. Jude stated that the angels that "left their first estate" were condemned, in chains, in the lowest part of hell.. for 70 generations.

Not to mention that makes God a really rather sadistic individual to change their bodies to be able to mate with us, but then kill all the children produced! Sick!

If any of those corrupted people had of wanted to.. .They could have repented.

Noah did not preach the coming doom for 100 years just to tell them how doomed they were..

Nope.. they were given a chance..

God does not make junk. God does not make dysfunctional. He doesn't make what is not needed.

People who are demon possessed have had their entire facial features change... I have very good friend who had the unfortunate opportunity to witness this..

So, if a demon, who possesses a human can change, contort and disfigure a human host.. How much can an angelic being do with it's own body?

Saying that angels are beautiful and that human men desired them makes the angels no more able to reproduce with us than apes. Yes, angels are beautiful---God loves beauty. Elephants are magnificent, beautiful animals---doesn't mean they are able to mate with us! Sodom was full of evil, perverted men who had sex with animals also! There are people today who do this and it is sick, but no children come of it!

Line of Seth---Seth was the offspring of Adam and Eve and has nothing to do with giant offspring except for the fact that Adam and Eve themselves were created perfect and were not as short as modern man. The pre-flood people lived to be over 900 years old, and they were giants who fathered giants. What makes y0ou think they were short? Nothing in the bible states their height and the scriptures just say there were giants in those days and after the flood also. Their age and their heights went down after the flood. It's genetics. There are still pockets of very tall people today, and there were pockets of giants after the flood.
There is no such mention of these giants eating up the landscape--that is more of Enoch garbage. The giants after the flood that the Israelites saw, also grew food that was enormous---they carried a cluster of grapes with 2 people! Doesn't sound like the land was ravished! Look up what produce is produced in Alaska---it is enormous!!If you spend more time with God in His true scriptures you would be better off! We will be giving an account of how we spend our money, our time and our talents. You are totally wasting yours.
You are believing foolish men who have no true understanding of God and make their living making these videos and movies for gullible people to buy so they can have gold plated toilets. If you want to pay for their lavish lifestyle---go right ahead. Satan doesn't care how he leads people astray just as long as they go astray and believe in a false understanding of who God is. If you do not know God---He will not know you.

In the end... Your argument is simply.. "This couldn't happen because it couldn't"..

You don't have facts. You don't have valid arguments..[/quote][/QUOTE]
 
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Sorry, say what? I made a few points.

The bible states that angels mated with women.
The Jews also don't believe that Jesus was the Messiah.

We are talking a bout the OT and they were expecting one then.

Were the angels that saved Lot 500 feet tall?

Again.. You are applying our "normal" to extenuating facts...

According to Enoch, the Nephilim were 4500 ft tall, so some said that is a mistake it should be 450---OK
You call that normal?

Actually it says "Son's of God" which is used in other places, in the bible, to indicate angelic beings. Not humans.

Sons of God were those men that followed God. And the bible, even in the OT has many instances were God call us His children and He our Father .

Other texts from that time, namely "The Book of Jasher", "The Book of Jubilee" and "The Book of Enoch" give better input and support to the canon.

No, they do not, that is why they are not canon, even in the Jewish canon.

The bible says that we may entertain angels... while being unaware. So, ya.. the option is not ruled out.
There is nothing that says that they could not. I already showed you with the angels who saved Lot.

The DNA did not have to "match" that of humans.. Just be compatible.

If evolutionists can go on wild tangents to believe that somehow all specific animals and life forms.. some how had male and female..... separately and without connection, simultaneously evolve to be fully compatible with their respective opposite sex.. and have the ability to procreate with their specific species...

Then angels defying God... being able to impregnate human women.. is far less of a stretch.

Again---appearing as human does not make them actually human. Fallen angels posses people, they can not become human, only impersonate or posses.
You showed me nothing about Lot and the angels except that human men found them desirable---the same human men who find other men desirable and even animals.

What human evolutionists make up is no better than what all this science fiction is. It is a stretch as big as apes impregnating human women. Angels can defy God, they can not procreate with humans and there is not one single prove of them doing so. There is only one verse that has been badly misinterpreted---that is all. There is, however, Jesus saying angels do not marry. He did not say---but fallen angels can. Angels care nothing about God's rules, why in the world would they then "marry" women--that is a human religious ceremony. And don't bother with that it is just "shyness" on the part of the translators for there are plenty of other places where there is no such "shyness" at all.

Closer than what?

If you watch the presentation on how they arrived at how close we are to monkeys.. You will realize how flawed it is..

I know how they arrive at it. I am saying that we and apes and we and angels ---are the same distance apart. Angels are not our kind. Jesus became human, He became lower than the angels. He is not their kind, we are not their kind.

There is no factual basis to state that angels can't reproduce... That's just a convenient assumption.

There is absolutely no factual basis tgo state that angels can reproduce. Jesus said they do not marry, which means no sex. God does not create useless appendages that have no function. God's creations are perfect.

Again, assumption, speculation... not factual.

There is not one verse that states angels created anything. It is a misinterpretation of one verse. There is no other basis for such wild speculation at all. They can impersonate humans, they can impersonate animals---they can not actually create---that is the realm of God alone, He is the creator. Anything else is totally not factual and blasphemous.

What if angels, like us, have control over what they do with their bodies... God would look down on it and condemn them for improper use of their abilities.. and punish them...

Oh, wait.. Jude stated that the angels that "left their first estate" were condemned, in chains, in the lowest part of hell.. for 70 generations.

That is they have free wi8ll as do we. We can't actual create anything either. We can procreate, that is as far as our abilities to create goes. We can't make our own genitals change, except through surgery. And that still does not make a woman have the ability to impregnate another woman with a surgical penis. Angels can't either, they have no reason to have any child producing "equipment." When God made them, He did not make them male and female, they only have male names they do not marry. They have free will only, they can choose to go against God, they can not go beyond what He has allowed. Even Satan has to ask permission before he could harm Job. They, nor we, can ignore the command "after their kind." They are not our kind."

Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Yes, the angels did not stay with God---it does not say anything about 70 generations. And this is talking about the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, who in like manner went after strange flesh---not that the angels did. You are putting your own ideas into that verse.

If any of those corrupted people had of wanted to.. .They could have repented.

Noah did not preach the coming doom for 100 years just to tell them how doomed they were..

Nope.. they were given a chance..

And who said that they couldn't repent? I didn't. I am saying that this theory has God giving the fallen angels the power to procreate after they fell, but then kills all their offspring. That makes no sense at all. He doesn't kill the fallen angels, but their chi8ldren and that after He gave them the ablity to have them. No---makes no sense. They were not able to procreate in heaven, and they remained unable to do so after the fall. Jesus is not a liar.

People who are demon possessed have had their entire facial features change... I have very good friend who had the unfortunate opportunity to witness this..

So, if a demon, who possesses a human can change, contort and disfigure a human host.. How much can an angelic being do with it's own body?

So? That still does not make him able to transform himself into the image of God. We are created in His image---Satan can not not do that---he can only impersonate. He can not actually create, God alone can do that. Why do you want to give him powers that God never gave him? If he could do that---everyone of us would have been replaced. He wants to destroy us. I know what Satan and his angels are able to do. We have Haitians who've seen some terrible things, and Africans who were devil worshipers, They can not create, only impersonate. and again---

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
It does not say--half breeds, it says men.

In the end... Your argument is simply.. "This couldn't happen because it couldn't"..

You don't have facts. You don't have valid arguments..
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What you can not see is that you are saying it can happen because non-canon writings say so, and because some Hollywood special effects people are making a fortune with this stuff and they say so. You have no facts. You have no valid arguments. You have false theories that mar the character of God and give to Satan powers that he wishes he had.
 
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Just a story to lighten things up...

I'm the tallest member of my family.
I tower over my parents and brothers...
And I'm not even that big.
I clock in at 5' 10"...father 5' 5" and mother at 5' 3". They have since shrunk due to age.

Last year I went to a men's retreat. There was a retired professional nose guard from the Raiders back when they were originally from Oakland. He was huge...right at 7 foot and big, strong and muscular....for a guy 20 years older than me he is doing really well. He's still quick as lightning and built.

He looked like a giant next to me. I got a pic on my phone of the two of us standing next to each other. He makes two of me easily. I can only imagine what he would look like standing next to my father or mother.
Nevermind that girl I dated while I was in college who was 4’ ½"....she always stated that half inch. LOL.

If I was going up against someone like that who had the latest and best technology I'd ever heard of or seen...I'd be wetting my pants. (David and Goliath)
Goliath was wearing bronze armour and had a bronze sword. His spear was also huge and long. It couldn't easily be broken.
Steel had yet to be invented...bare iron was as good as it got and it was still a bit of a mystery and very expensive. The iron swords that Johnathon and Saul were too heavy and the iron armor instead of just leather armour also were too heavy and big.

Yeah...but instead David was angry...very angry.
 
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Just a story to lighten things up...

I'm the tallest member of my family.
I tower over my parents and brothers...
And I'm not even that big.
I clock in at 5' 10"...father 5' 5" and mother at 5' 3". They have since shrunk due to age.

Last year I went to a men's retreat. There was a retired professional nose guard from the Raiders back when they were originally from Oakland. He was huge...right at 7 foot and big, strong and muscular....for a guy 20 years older than me he is doing really well. He's still quick as lightning and built.

He looked like a giant next to me. I got a pic on my phone of the two of us standing next to each other. He makes two of me easily. I can only imagine what he would look like standing next to my father or mother.
Nevermind that girl I dated while I was in college who was 4’ ½"....she always stated that half inch. LOL.

If I was going up against someone like that who had the latest and best technology I'd ever heard of or seen...I'd be wetting my pants. (David and Goliath)
Goliath was wearing bronze armour and had a bronze sword. His spear was also huge and long. It couldn't easily be broken.
Steel had yet to be invented...bare iron was as good as it got and it was still a bit of a mystery and very expensive. The iron swords that Johnathon and Saul were too heavy and the iron armor instead of just leather armour also were too heavy and big.

Yeah...but instead David was angry...very angry.

It is said that Angus McAskill was the largest non-pathological giant that has ever lived. He stood 7'9". Here is a photo of him standing with a man who is 6'5"
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Just a story to lighten things up...

I'm the tallest member of my family.
I tower over my parents and brothers...
And I'm not even that big.
I clock in at 5' 10"...father 5' 5" and mother at 5' 3". They have since shrunk due to age.

Last year I went to a men's retreat. There was a retired professional nose guard from the Raiders back when they were originally from Oakland. He was huge...right at 7 foot and big, strong and muscular....for a guy 20 years older than me he is doing really well. He's still quick as lightning and built.

He looked like a giant next to me. I got a pic on my phone of the two of us standing next to each other. He makes two of me easily. I can only imagine what he would look like standing next to my father or mother.
Nevermind that girl I dated while I was in college who was 4’ ½"....she always stated that half inch. LOL.

If I was going up against someone like that who had the latest and best technology I'd ever heard of or seen...I'd be wetting my pants. (David and Goliath)
Goliath was wearing bronze armour and had a bronze sword. His spear was also huge and long. It couldn't easily be broken.
Steel had yet to be invented...bare iron was as good as it got and it was still a bit of a mystery and very expensive. The iron swords that Johnathon and Saul were too heavy and the iron armor instead of just leather armour also were too heavy and big.

Yeah...but instead David was angry...very angry.

LOL! My family are all tall---except for me, I'm the shrimp. My oldest brother was the shortest of the boys, at only 5ft10". The middle one was 6ft5", the youngest was 6ft4", my father over 6 ft, his two sisters were 5ft10" and 6ft. I have a niece 5ft 101/2" her sister is like me---I'm 5ft3, (used to be 5ft4) she is 5ft4. The brother that's 6ft 5 is married to a woman who's 5ft 2". So was my stepmother, barely, with her neck stretched. But my mother was 5ft 10.
I had always thought I would be tall, I wanted to be 6 ft. I was always amongst the 3 tallest in class. One year, after summer, I came to school and everyone had shot up above me. I came home and cried. Sooo bummed.
 
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Are you sure, Lost?

There are graves near the sight believed to be near where the ark landed.. and they are very large..

There is support to argue that Adam, Eve and others, of that time.. may have actually been taller than us.

Sometimes we get caught up believing that we are the "normal"... and our world is "normal"..

When, it could be that we are little squirts on a world that is lower in O2 and has much different ecology than that before the flood.

Site of the Ark? Graves? Proof?

Only thing i have ever seen my friend is wild youtube videos of them and photoshopped images!

Nothing scientific at all.
 
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