Hell is a perversion of paradise, a perversion of the word "Love".

[Neogaia777]

Hell is a perversion of paradise, a perversion of the word "Love"...

After Adam and Eve ate the fruit, what was paradise for them, became a fearful hell. For the first time they experienced/were exposed to, the perverse side/interpretation/perspective of "Love", and they became afraid... After being exposed to all the gross, wrong interpretations of Love...

So, heaven or hell is a "perspective", a perception/perspective on Love

So, depending on your perspective and interpretation, heaven and hell could be one place, but if you have a wrong perspective of/on Love.

So, then, what could be paradise for those with the correct interpretation of Love, could be hell for those with the incorrect interpretation of/on Love...

In Jesus parable about the rich man an Lazarus, he (Jesus) said "now he (Lazarus) is having comfort in this place while you (the rich man) are in torment..".

Hell was a perversion (incorrect interpretation) of paradise/love, created from the moment that Satan's temptation was successful and the fall of Adam and Eve...

Reminds of the song "Hotel California" where it says "I was thinking to myself, this could be heaven or this could be hell" Any of you ever felt that way? I have.

Comments?

God Bless!

 

[Andry]

First, if there is a hell, in the way most evangelicals currently believe it.

Second, quote, "After Adam and Eve ate the fruit, what was paradise for them, became a fearful hell...." - is pure supposition as Scripture doesn't say that. It sounds like you've misunderstood the purpose of why they were in the garden in the first place.

 

[walkinginthelightnow]

Why add to or subtract from the Word? Hell is a place of extreme torment, Jesus wouldn't have said to chop off your hand or pluck out your eye and go trough life maimed if Hell wasn't that bad.

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[Neogaia777]

No one finds the bolded, "in this place" curious?

Jesus also said in Matthew 12:33, either you people make the tree fine and it's fruit fine, or make the tree rotten and it's fruit rotten, for by it's fruit the tree "is known"?

The fact that it says "make" or "you people make" denotes a person's perspective or point of view of something, on say heaven/hell could be up to the way one see's or "percieves" it. And the fact that the parable mentioned earlier, it says "in this place" which could denote perspective or point of view also...

Make the tree...? In the garden of Eden it says that the serpent said to eve s shalt thou not eatest of the tree that is in the middle or midst of the garden. (Genesis 3:3)...

But there's one problem, you see there were two trees in the "midst" or "middle" of the garden (Genesis 2:9) So, I wondered if this could mean one's "perspective" of the tree, made it good or bad...?

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

No one finds the bolded, "in this place" curious?

Jesus also said in Matthew 12:33, either you people make the tree fine and it's fruit fine, or make the tree rotten and it's fruit rotten, for by it's fruit the tree "is known"?

The fact that it says "make" or "you people make" denotes a person's perspective or point of view of something, on say heaven/hell could be up to the way one see's or "percieves" it. And the fact that the parable mentioned earlier, it says "in this place" which could denote perspective or point of view also...

Make the tree...? In the garden of Eden it says that the serpent said to eve s shalt thou not eatest of the tree that is in the middle or midst of the garden. (Genesis 3:3)...

But there's one problem, you see there were two trees in the "midst" or "middle" of the garden (Genesis 2:9) So, I wondered if this could mean one's "perspective" of the tree, made it good or bad...?

God Bless!

Anyone?

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

No one finds the bolded, "in this place" curious?

Jesus also said in Matthew 12:33, either you people make the tree fine and it's fruit fine, or make the tree rotten and it's fruit rotten, for by it's fruit the tree "is known"?

The fact that it says "make" or "you people make" denotes a person's perspective or point of view of something, on say heaven/hell could be up to the way one see's or "percieves" it. And the fact that the parable mentioned earlier, it says "in this place" which could denote perspective or point of view also...

Make the tree...? In the garden of Eden it says that the serpent said to eve s shalt thou not eatest of the tree that is in the middle or midst of the garden. (Genesis 3:3)...

But there's one problem, you see there were two trees in the "midst" or "middle" of the garden (Genesis 2:9) So, I wondered if this could mean one's "perspective" of the tree, made it good or bad...?

God Bless!

You guys have nothing in reply to this, really?

God Bless!

 

[least]

This seems to be to be one of those conversations brought about by someone who has eaten too much turkey. First, the Bible clearly reveals that the difference between heaven and hell is more than one's interpretation of it. In the account of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31), both men are in Hades likely waiting on the final judgment. But you fail to see that in Hades, there are two different places (not interpretations of one place). The first, for those who have lived for themselves, is a place of fiery torment. The second, for those who are dependent on Christ, is a place of comfort. There is not question that these are two distinct places: "And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us" (v26). So you can see that there is more than a mere interpretation between them. That is not to say that one's interpretation of hell may not differ from another. One may say, "It is very hot here," but another might say, "It is not pleasant here at all!" Either way, no one need find their own interpretation; all that is necessary is to trust in Christ so they won't have to experience it!

If Jesus' mention of a tree being either good or bad has anything to do with perception it would be God's perception (Matthew 12:33-37). After all, this passage has to do with judgment and judgment belongs to God. What Jesus is saying, then, is that a tree will be known by its fruit. If God were to judge a tree to determine what kind of tree it was, he would simply look at its fruit. If the tree is covered with apples, what kind of tree do you suppose God will judge the tree to be? In the same way, a good tree will be known because of its good fruit and a bad tree will be known by its bad fruit. When Jesus says, "Either make the tree good...or make the tree bad," he is saying that we must determine what kind of tree we want to be and cultivate our lives to be such. Now, we can only be a good tree if we are planted by faith in Christ.

As to the connection of this passage to Genesis 2, I am going to have to argue that there is no connection. Whether or not there was one tree that could be "perceived" as being both the Tree of Life AND the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is extreme speculation. Because it says they were both in the "middle" of the garden doesn't necessarily mean both were smack-dab in the precise center. Additionally, if this were one tree instead of two, the question must be asked, "Was this really a tree of life if eating its fruit meant death?"