Goodbye Ten Commandments, hello satanic monument

[Nithavela]

It's nice to see that we have gone from "the USA is going to hell in a hand basket" to arguing semantics in just one day.

 

[AceHero]

And now religious freedom is a bad thing....

Make up your minds, people!

The new meme among conservatives is to claim that the religious freedom enshrined within the Constitution applies only to Christians.

And probably only a specific brand of Christians at that.

 

[NightHawkeye]

The new meme among conservatives is to claim that the religious freedom enshrined within the Constitution applies only to Christians.

I don't recall anyone saying that.

Do you have a reference?

 

[AceHero]

The new meme among conservatives is to claim that the religious freedom enshrined within the Constitution applies only to Christians.

And probably only a specific brand of Christians at that.

I don't recall anyone saying that.

Do you have a reference?

Let's see...

Alabama's Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore is receiving some criticism over recent comments in which he suggested the First Amendment only applies to Christians because it mentions a "creator God."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/a...-amendment-applies-to-christians-only-119168/

"I have contended for years that the First Amendment, as given by the Founders, provides religious liberty protections for Christianity only. Most attorney types, befuddled by years of untethered Supreme Court activism, think it covers any and all religions you can name."

http://afa.net/the-stand/government/first-amendment-christianity-satanism/

In an interview with The Dove TV on Friday, anti-gay activist Scott Lively insisted that Christians are being denied their First Amendment rights because of gay rights, while simultaneously asserting that the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious freedom applies only to Christians.

In fact, Lively explained, it is because the United States has grown to accept “religious pluralism” that God is now punishing us with abortion rights and LGBT equality.

“Well, I don’t actually believe in ‘religious freedom,’ the way that the term is used,” Lively explained. “I know that when you use it and when most people use it, you’re talking about Christianity. We’re not talking about freedom for Islam and freedom for Buddhism and Hinduism as if they’re equal with God.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...istians-and-thats-why-god-s-punishing-us-gay-

 

[dgiharris]

The important part is that this statue was erected on private property. And not even high value private property, but an industrial compound in detroit.

Everyone can erect and unveil any kind of monument on his own private property. Surely there is nothing wrong to be found with that, hmm?

On the other hand, there are some things to be found wrong with spreading a story like this in a deliberately misleading way, which leads to outcries of christian persecution for a thing that has never happened.

PS: Can you even call a small statue placed on private property a monument?

Never let a pesky irrelevant thing like the truth stand in the way of your argument.

 

[keith99]

I would have to do some research on Baphomet to form a real opinion. However, I really dislike inciting people unnecessarily.

As an artist, I would like to see it though.

The basics are not hard to get. It does however point to a rather nasty bit of Christian History where they martyred their own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet

 

[He is Risen 72]

The war on Christianity continues…

 

[Nithavela]

Yes, the war of putting small statues of fantasy creatures on private property. Surely lynchings are next.

 

[He is Risen 72]

Well, you are flying the flag of the majority of the people that did the lynching…

 

[Nithavela]

Indeed, isn't it fun?

 

[He is Risen 72]

Indeed, isn't it fun?

Lynching people?

 

[Nithavela]

Dunno, never tried it. Doubt it, to be honest.

 

[AceHero]

Yes, the war of putting small statues of fantasy creatures on private property. Surely lynchings are next.

Conservatives are obsessed with prominently placing The Ten Commandments on public property. I wonder if that might be construed as idolatry. It sure seems like an idol to a lot of people. It's not as if not having such monuments on public property will all of a sudden cause the nation to collapse.

 

[keith99]

Conservatives are obsessed with prominently placing The Ten Commandments on public property. I wonder if that might be construed as idolatry. It sure seems like an idol to a lot of people. It's not as if not having such monuments on public property will all of a sudden cause the nation to collapse.

No problem, the Catholics have already figured out a way to cut that part out. Of course there is a problem when we start laughing about the false witness part.

 

[Bible Page]

This obscene statue isn't going to be installed anywhere in Oklahoma. It found its home, complete with a Satanic rite to commemorate that fact, in Detroit Michigan.

The Satanic Temple of NYC, led by a satirist, atheist, and conman who uses an alias now that he's running a con with TST NYC, tried to get this monstrosity errected in Oklahoma and failed. Oklahoma city council passed a moratorium on install of new monuments and that sealed the deal.
TST NYC then lugged this obscene mockery of the scripture wherein Jesus says to suffer the little children to come unto him, to Detroit. Figuring that's a fitting foundation given the crime rate for Satan carved in stone.

The 10 Commandments were taken down in Oklahoma. Interestingly enough the ACLU said they'd drop their lawsuit demanding that if this Satanic monstrosity was permitted to be erected right beside it. Oklahoma city council didn't concede to ACLU and TST's ultimatum.

 

[Bible Page]

Conservatives are obsessed with prominently placing The Ten Commandments on public property. I wonder if that might be construed as idolatry. It sure seems like an idol to a lot of people. It's not as if not having such monuments on public property will all of a sudden cause the nation to collapse.

Is the statue of Liberty an idol?
Is the Washington monument an idol?
Is the Lincoln memorial an idol?

The Ten Commandments are a moral code that serves a purpose in a civil society. A baphomet monstrosity does not.

 

[Bible Page]

Aside from the fact that both objects are unconstitutional on public land, neither one has a shred of artistic value; they both deserve to be used as landfill.

Wow! And yet look where you are.

 

[jenny1972]

http://thesatanictempledetroit.com/campaigns/national-campaigns/oklahoma-city-monument/
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So much for the idea that this country is headed in the right direction! They remove the Ten Commandment monument at night, and erect this thing during the day!

the satanic temple proposed that the 10 commandments could stay and the ACLU would drop the lawsuit if they too could put up a statue of their own thats what the article said . and thats exactly the reason for a separation between church and state . Christianity is not the only religion in America and if we allow one religion into government/public places it opens it up to all other religions .

 

[Arcangl86]

The Ten Commandments are a moral code that serves a purpose in a civil society.

Except only three of the Commandments apply to American society, and two of those are pretty universal.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

It think that people in the 21st century are afraid of a statue is sad.