God Will Judge America

[GracetotheHumble]

Hmmm....some of these Nicene Creed Christians apparently don't live up to YOUR definition of Christian

The creed is pretty clear. If your understanding of it is flawed then I would say you have issues.

 

[GracetotheHumble]

Acts 1:11

“Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who is taken up from you into Heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into Heaven.”

 

[Steve Petersen]

Acts 1:11

“Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who is taken up from you into Heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go into Heaven.”

So, is it your assertion that people who don't believe in a literal, physical return of Jesus aren't Christians?

 

[GracetotheHumble]

So, is it your assertion that people who don't believe in a literal, physical return of Jesus aren't Christians?

Only God can judge the eternal state of someone's soul. But I would say that they are walking in darkness and have not fully come into the light.

 

[Steve Petersen]

Only God can judge the eternal state of someones soul. But I would say that they are walking in darkness and have not fully come into the light.

In English please, no evasion. Are they Christian or not? If you truly don't know, then how can you claim I am not a Nicene Christian?

 

[GracetotheHumble]

In English please, no evasion. Are they Christian or not? If you truly don't know, then how can you claim I am not a Nicene Christian?

I can claim that you are not a Nicene Christian because you don't adhere to the creed which clearly states Christ will physically return again.

 

[GracetotheHumble]

I would say no those who don't believe Christ is returning again probably don't really know him as the scriptures clearly state he will come again.

But like I said in the end it's up to God to judge the state of someone's soul.

However I can make a judgement that you are not abiding by the forum rules.

 

[Steve Petersen]

I would say no those who don't believe Christ is returning again probably don't really know him as the scriptures clearly state he will come again.

Yet, I gave you links to examples of Nicene Christians who did NOT believe in a literal coming.

 

[GracetotheHumble]

The scriptures are clear that Christ will come again. Anyone who does not understand this truth is thoroughly confused. 1 Thessalonians 4:16

 

[GracetotheHumble]

The last thing Christ says in the scriptures is that he is coming again:
Revelation 22:12

 

[Straightshot]

"The scriptures are clear that Christ will come again"


Very clear .... here are a few of the many

[Matthew: 24:29-31; 31-46; Revelation 19:11-21]

 

[GracetotheHumble]

Yet, I gave you links to examples of Nicene Christians who did NOT believe in a literal coming.

They are not truly Nicene Creed Christians. The creed clearly says that Christ ascended and will come again.

 

[RAnonUS19B]

They are not truly Nicene Creed Christians. The creed clearly says that Christ ascended and will come again.

Yea the Bible clearly states Christ is coming again but sadly there are Christians that do not want to admit or out of ignorance or fear. Fear that they may have to face the Lord one day. Not that he is one of those Christians but he very might well be so it may be hard for you to get him to accept what the bible says.

Ephesians 4:18 18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

Proverbs 29:25 25 The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the Lord shall be safe.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

 

[Armoured]

People have been talking like this since humans could speak; meanwhile, the world goes on.....

It's like little kids arguing. When one feels like he's losing, the goto is "well my Dad could beat up your Dad" . It's the exact same argument tactic.

 

[pgp_protector]

Wolf !!
Wolf !!
Wolf !!

 

[GracetotheHumble]

It's like little kids arguing. When one feels like he's losing, the goto is "well my Dad could beat up your Dad" . It's the exact same argument tactic.

No, I've used scripture and based my thoughts on the rock Christ. You on the other hand have used an argument built on man's own opinion, an argument of straw.

 

[GracetotheHumble]

Wolf !!
Wolf !!
Wolf !!

Are you calling someone here a wolf? Because name calling is a violation of the forum rules.

 

[GracetotheHumble]

It's like little kids arguing. When one feels like he's losing, the goto is "well my Dad could beat up your Dad" . It's the exact same argument tactic.

No, I am using scripture to show that:

1. Jesus will return. Acts of the Apostles 1:11
2. The world will be destroyed by fire. 2 Peter 3:10
3. Scoffers will come in the last days. 2 Peter 3:3-4
4. Homosexuality is an abomination which God hates. Leviticus 20:13

 

[pgp_protector]

Are you calling someone here a wolf? Because name calling is a violation of the forum rules.

No I'm crying Wolf.
Learn your parables.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

It's not something I want to happen but it is something I see as inevitable based upon America's (and all the nations who follow suit) current behavior.

Oh, I think this evil you worry about is offset somewhat by the abolition of slavery. And we've even started preventing men from beating their wives with no recourse left for the wife. So hey, maybe its just a wash.