God knows... so why wait?

[Tellyontellyon]

Good knows the future, every thought, action and outcome that ever was or will be. That's are no limits on his knowledge.
He already knows who will go to heaven and hell, and always did.

So what is the point of this human life going on? Why not just cut to the chase sort us all into wheat and chaff right now?

Why the facade?

 

[timothyu]

Why not just cut to the chase sort us all into wheat and chaff right now?

Perhaps He has. We are on a different time scale.

 

[Sir Joseph]

Good knows the future, every thought, action and outcome that ever was or will be. That's are no limits on his knowledge.
He already knows who will go to heaven and hell, and always did.

So what is the point of this human life going on? Why not just cut to the chase sort us all into wheat and chaff right now?

Why the facade?

I can't know God's thoughts for sure, but I can pose 3 reasonable answers.

God skipping the world's 6000+ years of human history is incompatible with foreknowing future events that never would have happened. The question assumes an impossibility.

If God created the world and us us for his glory and pleasure, eliminating the world's 6000+ years of human history would negate that glory and pleasure.

God didn't create us to just enter heaven, but clearly wants us to grow our souls and character here in this imperfect world in preparation for the new world to come.

I'm sure there are other possible reasons, but I don't think the answer's important, nor the question any kind of stumbling block for a believer.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Good knows the future, every thought, action and outcome that ever was or will be. That's are no limits on his knowledge.
He already knows who will go to heaven and hell, and always did.

So what is the point of this human life going on? Why not just cut to the chase sort us all into wheat and chaff right now?

Why the facade?

Because you haven't lived your complete life yet. You're not everything that you'll yet become before the dust settles. Once it does, then He'll sort us all out. Think of it as the act of baking bread. You wouldn't want to pull it out of the oven before it's finished ...

 

[timothyu]

before the dust settles. Once it does, then He'll sort us all out.

I think what he is saying is God has already sorted it all out.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I think what he is saying is God has already sorted it all out.

Right. And I think you're relevant to point this out. But the fact that he followed it up with the questions that he did demonstrates (to md) that he's needing some additional contexts to the whole ball of wax ... some more or less apophatic sorts of contexts.

My point is this: It's not as if we can just say "Omni-science" and that somehow with the speech act of asserting this term there automatically comes along with it certian logical nuances or necessities we can just "tweek" out of our notion of that very term. No, I'm afreaid we don't have a full understanding of what omni-science is,or does, or as to what it logically should do. We have some Christians though who confuse the inquiry by saying, "Boy, step aside! We have this covered in our Systematic Theology and we know exactly why and how God would have done such and such."

I'm going to be the one to say that while we know that Christ saves us, we can't logically see clearly the necessities of His All-Knowing position. We can't really answer the OP's question in any clear, definitive way. I just happen to think that "Baker Analogy" is a close to any practical answer as we can have, all thing human considered.

... And life goes on for, I think, that reason.

 

[Diamond7]

We have free will to make a choice. God does not determine our choice for us.

 

[Clare73]

Good knows the future, every thought, action and outcome that ever was or will be. That's are no limits on his knowledge.
He already knows who will go to heaven and hell, and always did.

So what is the point of this human life going on? Why not just cut to the chase sort us all into wheat and chaff right now?

Why the facade?

Wisdom is knowing the best means to the best end.

God is Infinite Wisdom.

His ways are best and his purpose is best. . .and neither his ways nor his purpose are like ours (Isa 55:8-9), including cutting to the chase.

 

[Hawkins]

Good knows the future, every thought, action and outcome that ever was or will be. That's are no limits on his knowledge.
He already knows who will go to heaven and hell, and always did.

So what is the point of this human life going on? Why not just cut to the chase sort us all into wheat and chaff right now?

Why the facade?

If a mayor knows in advance who a criminal is. Is it good for the mayor to put the criminal to jail without giving the criminal a fair trial?

One of the purposes of planet earth is for all evil to show up openly then eradicated once and for all by means of a legal/lawful process known as the Final Judgment.

 

[nightmares]

Where's the fun in that

Pass the popcorn

 

[Clare73]

Where's the fun in that

Pass the popcorn

It's not about fun, it's about God's wisdom (see post #12).

 

[nightmares]

It's not about fun, it's about God's wisdom (see post #12).

Yeah people have been saying that for millennia and yet we are still here

It's time Christians tried a different approach

 

[Clare73]

Yeah people have been saying that for millennia and yet we are still here

It's time Christians tried a different approach

Christians don't run the show, God does.

 

[nightmares]

God: When are humans going to start asking for me to release them from Earth instead of repeating the failed millennia approach of doing nothing?

 

[Clare73]

God: When are humans going to start asking for me to release them from Earth instead of repeating the failed millennia approach of doing nothing?

That ain't God talkin'.

Humans don't run the show.

There's a plan, and it will be fully executed, no short-cuts.

 

[nightmares]

It appears you are fully aware of the details of this plan

Because it is far more intelligent to ask God to take us off this planet rather than your failed approach

 

[Clare73]

It appears you are fully aware of the details of this plan.

They are found in Scripture.

Because it is far more intelligent to ask God to take us off this planet rather than your failed approach

You ain't gettin' me to agree that anything is more intelligent than what the omniscience of God does.

Who you gonna' trust? . . .God, or your lyin' eyes.

 

[timothyu]

When are humans going to start asking for me to release them from Earth

Logical, considering He put us here to learn a lesson. Once that lesson is learned that our will is backwards to His, He will eventually remove us. It's called death of the flesh in both senses.

 

[nightmares]

Well you can wait a few more thousand years repeating the failed approach of doing nothing

I will do the intelligent thing and ask that humanity be set free from this prison planet

 

[StuartB]

Logical, considering He put us here to learn a lesson. Once that lesson is learned that our will is backwards to His, He will eventually remove us. It's called death of the flesh in both senses.

So Children dying get the chance to learn that lesson? Face it, God is NOT in control of this world whatsoever. Maybe he is in eternity, but not here.