Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
The flood details are hidden from everyone except Christians in the last days. God hid the details in order to "catch men" who are "willingly ignorant" of WHY He hid the details. In the end, more terrible punishment will be given to those who teach little children that evolution is a fact and Jesus is a religion. They offend these little ones and cause them to doubt God's Holy Word and Jesus.
-_- acting as if you have access to special knowledge other people aren't is not helpful and so many religious people make such claims that I don't find them to be interesting in the slightest. The poster that goes by the name of "dad" does much the same, but you and I would both agree that he has no special knowledge about the bible; so why should I view you any differently when you act the same way?
Whenever Christians point out bible verses that essentially say "non-believers can't understand the bible", it's super annoying because there is no means by which I or anyone else could convincingly disprove those statements in the eyes of a believer, no matter how knowledgeable about the bible a person is. A believer can't dispute those verses on our behalf, because their knowledge is that of a believer, so it should be entirely possible for them to understand the bible, and it is also possible for them not to. A non-believer can't dispute it, because viewing the bible as incorrect means "they just don't get it", as far as the people that post these verses are concerned. It's just a super annoying way of blocking the debate.
The 450 ft Ark would have broken apart if it had landed on the side or top of a mountain. Noah and his family could not have stayed thousands of feet in the mountains and survived the first winter he spent on our planet. He stayed in the Ark from July to February and only left at the command of God. No other Lake in the area was a short walk into Northern Mesopotamia between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. etc.
Don't even bother mentioning the ark's stability as an argument, because it is already well known that the ark as described in the bible wouldn't have been able to float in water at all, let alone remain intact as the water receded. None of the lakes are a "short" walk to Northern Mesopotamia, and Lake Urmia certainly isn't so much farther from it than Lake Van to make it impossible to get there.
Just after spending 5 months enclosed in the Ark? The Raven didn't have any problem flying to shore,
Gen 8:7 since it did NOT return to the Ark.
I don't know why you kinda contradict yourself, seeing as you seem to think being cooped up in the ark would make the animals so sickly that the dove couldn't fly much, but the raven could? I also don't know why you don't consider the possibility that the raven drowned; it's not like Noah ever sees it again, and he brought 7 of each bird "kind".
They don't fit the description better than Lake Van, Turkey and neither are a closer walk to Northern Mesopotamia, etc.
Lake Urmia fits the verses just as well as Lake Van, for the verses do not mention any lake at all. Not only that, but I don't think Lake Urmia is significantly more distant from Northern Mesopotamia than Lake Van is. It seems equally reasonable to travel from there to Northern Mesopotamia as it does to get there from Lake Van. Lake Urmia was historically larger, meaning that its shores would have been more distant and thus make it more probable that it may have once been large enough that a dove couldn't fly from the center to the shore from some directions.
But again, your contentions are too weak, you have to actually eliminate the other two lakes as possibilities. Since it is very obvious that Lake Van is never mentioned in the bible, you must show that Lake Sevan and Lake Urmia actually have some quality that would prevent them from fulfilling the same exact role that Lake Van does in your biblical interpretation as it is. No more adding stuff.
I also want to know why you care what lake it is. I'm only pushing the issue because you seem unwilling for any other lake to fulfill the role, and I want to know why. It seems like such an insignificant detail.
