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I found this article on the topic to be of interest: http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/whos-afraid-of-same-sex-bathrooms
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Why cant there be urinals?
Can females use them? No. So how is that a gender neutral restroom?
Toilet stalls or go back to the way it was. I prefer the way it was since females will have a conniption over the men leaving the toilet seat up.
First, I don't understand your comment. The restroom I used had urinals and stalls. That's gender neutral.
Second, there are devices out there called peewee that allow women to pee standing up. I have a friend who uses them when she goes hiking.
Unless there is a line the women won't know who was last to use the toilet
Females cannot use urinals. Guys can use toilets for any occasion. So toilets are for everyone. You can't call something gender neutral if the facility within that restroom does not offer all of it as gender neutral.
I did say all or go back to the way it was.
I am sure she goes behind a bush or out of sight of people before using it.
no, that's a men's restroom; urinals for #1, stalls for #2.First, I don't understand your comment. The restroom I used had urinals and stalls. That's gender neutral.
Females cannot use urinals.
In Germany, at least, this has been normal for...ever, I guess. I remember being slightly perturbed by it as young fella, walking into a rest room with the girls but as you say, not a big deal.During a visit to a Penn State University campus over the weekend i used a gender-neutral restroom. A female student came it to use the restroom while I was in there. It was not a big deal; she did her thing, I did my thing. Nobody saw anything that they shouldn't have seen. We had a nice chat at the sinks and agreed that a gender-neutral restroom worked just fine.
http://thetab.com/us/pennstate/2016/01/22/penn-state-get-gender-neutral-bathrooms-campus-2816
Stanford has gender-neutral restrooms throughout our campus, both in the areas that are exclusively for the community - such as in dorms - and for publicly accessible areas. People actually seem to prefer them. Men because they provide a higher level of privacy than in single-gender restrooms, since there are no unenclosed urinals, and women because the lines tend to be shorter. It does require a bit of mental acclimation, though.
Since the 1990s some colleges have had coed bathrooms on dorm hall floors, so it's not an entirely new concept, but is one that is labeled differently. My stepmom graduated from college back then and said she lived in coed on-campus apartments and dorms that had coed bathrooms. Perhaps because it didn't come with any form of label, such as "gender-neutral" or or with the public divisiveness of now, it generated far less of controversy. The layout most often used is a central area with sinks, and then on either side of it stalls with commodes and cubicles with showers. To me, what's most important is a stall or cubicle door that affords privacy and properly locks. The gender of the person barging in on me because of a defective lock is entirely irrelevant.
To add - I've seen many histrionic threads on here to the effect of "Obama wants our teenage daughters to share bathrooms with men! Oh noes!" I'm a teenage woman who shared a bathroom with many men every day last year (this year I'm interning and living off campus), without even the slightest bit of detriment. I never saw the genitalia of either gender because everyone used individual stalls, and not once did I ever feel vulnerable or compromised.
During a visit to a Penn State University campus over the weekend i used a gender-neutral restroom. A female student came it to use the restroom while I was in there. It was not a big deal; she did her thing, I did my thing. Nobody saw anything that they shouldn't have seen. We had a nice chat at the sinks and agreed that a gender-neutral restroom worked just fine.
http://thetab.com/us/pennstate/2016/01/22/penn-state-get-gender-neutral-bathrooms-campus-2816
Perhaps a lower societal tolerance for general sexual predation might be a better solution than relying rules to govern the behaviour of the general respectful, mature and non-predatory population.Then obviously neither of you were sexual predators. Now, if you (or whoever) had been on the prowl, looking to get some thrill and cause trouble, it would likely had been a completely different experience for both people.
Perhaps a lower societal tolerance for general sexual predation might be a better solution than relying rules to govern the behaviour of the general respectful, mature and non-predatory population.
I'm talking about the current societal tolerence for general sexual predation that passes off as "chatting up" or "hitting on" somebody for the sole purposes of "getting off" with them, and I'm also talking about the generally over sexualised nature of our media and culture, the general acceptance of media and entertainment that introduce and encourage some people to the ideas and thoughts that given time are likely to coalesce into sexually predatory behaviour."lower societal tolerance"?
You mean writing laws? We have those already. Or do you mean something wishy-washy like calling them meanie-heads and what not?
Come to think of it, the people I know who are succsesful sexual predators do not use places like rest rooms to engage in their art, many much nicer places to catch a fish than that.I'm talking about the current societal tolerence for general sexual predation that passes off as "chatting up" or "hitting on" somebody for the sole purposes of "getting off" with them, and I'm also talking about the generally over sexualised nature of our media and culture, the general acceptance of media and entertainment that introduce and encourage some people to the ideas and thoughts that given time are likely to coalesce into sexually predatory behaviour.
the current societal tolerence for general sexual predation that passes off as "chatting up" or "hitting on" somebody for the sole purposes of "getting off" with them
True, its not new. But our culture is definitely more encouraging of it than most.That's not current. That's been going on since there have been people with libidos, and will continue until the Lord returns and the corruptible body will be made incorruptible. It's just the reality we live in right now.
Then obviously neither of you were sexual predators. Now, if you (or whoever) had been on the prowl, looking to get some thrill and cause trouble, it would likely had been a completely different experience for both people.