HYPOTHETICAL:
For the sake of debate:
Homosexuality is a fixed and natural trait for a limited number of mankind.
Let's say the gay rights proponents have it right and Jesus, Peter, Paul are misrepresented and all of historic and written Christian doctrine, has it wrong about marriage and homosexuality and what IS being condemned is STRAIGHT PEOPLE engaging in homosexuality. Matthew 19: [QUOTE](4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.")[/QUOTE]
And Romans 1:
(26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.)
These scriptures do not apply to people "born gay."
That is what the gay position actually says. But wouldn't they would condemn non-gays for engaging in homosexuality?
Where is the support for anti-gay sex preaching TOWARDS straight people?
It is the gay rights position that ONLY a small percentage of people are born homosexual (in and out of The Church), or as they put it: people are born with a homosexual orientation. A preference exclusively for those of the same gender.
But this would then, make it wrong and sinful, for heterosexuals to engage in homosexuality.
Where are ALL of the Gay Preachers CONDEMNING homosexuality for NON-homosexuals, or rather, trying to reach them non-homosexuals that engage in homosexuality to repent?
"Straights" that engage in arsenokoite, homosexuality and/or gay sex are clearly doing what is not appropriate in gay religious beliefs?
THAT would be consistent IF gays have it right on the teaching of arsenokoites (homosexuality) being non-homosexuals doing what is obviosuly unnatural to them and for them as a sinful behavior and gay sex being acceptable for homosexuals.
Now, how, in light of Paul and all of Christian history do BI-SEXUALS find support? Would they have to make a choice of which gender to marry and find blessing within the Church?
Anything Goes!!! is NOT a Christian allowance either. Gay or Straight. Gay rights advocates claim that it would be wrong, sinful, and "unnatural" for homosexuals to marry someone of the opposite sex because, they say this would be living a lie.
What about homosexuality for non homosexuals? A people group that number in the 99.9% to maybe 95% of the populace. How do Gays preach sexual morality for the ENTIRE populace?
Let us hear from Gays and their support group about the preaching AGAINST homosexuality in that way.
Anyone?????
For the sake of debate:
Homosexuality is a fixed and natural trait for a limited number of mankind.
Let's say the gay rights proponents have it right and Jesus, Peter, Paul are misrepresented and all of historic and written Christian doctrine, has it wrong about marriage and homosexuality and what IS being condemned is STRAIGHT PEOPLE engaging in homosexuality. Matthew 19: [QUOTE](4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.")[/QUOTE]
And Romans 1:
(26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.)
These scriptures do not apply to people "born gay."
That is what the gay position actually says. But wouldn't they would condemn non-gays for engaging in homosexuality?
Where is the support for anti-gay sex preaching TOWARDS straight people?
It is the gay rights position that ONLY a small percentage of people are born homosexual (in and out of The Church), or as they put it: people are born with a homosexual orientation. A preference exclusively for those of the same gender.
But this would then, make it wrong and sinful, for heterosexuals to engage in homosexuality.
Where are ALL of the Gay Preachers CONDEMNING homosexuality for NON-homosexuals, or rather, trying to reach them non-homosexuals that engage in homosexuality to repent?
"Straights" that engage in arsenokoite, homosexuality and/or gay sex are clearly doing what is not appropriate in gay religious beliefs?
THAT would be consistent IF gays have it right on the teaching of arsenokoites (homosexuality) being non-homosexuals doing what is obviosuly unnatural to them and for them as a sinful behavior and gay sex being acceptable for homosexuals.
Now, how, in light of Paul and all of Christian history do BI-SEXUALS find support? Would they have to make a choice of which gender to marry and find blessing within the Church?
Anything Goes!!! is NOT a Christian allowance either. Gay or Straight. Gay rights advocates claim that it would be wrong, sinful, and "unnatural" for homosexuals to marry someone of the opposite sex because, they say this would be living a lie.
What about homosexuality for non homosexuals? A people group that number in the 99.9% to maybe 95% of the populace. How do Gays preach sexual morality for the ENTIRE populace?
Let us hear from Gays and their support group about the preaching AGAINST homosexuality in that way.
Anyone?????