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if you ever want to know what is occult, then whatever is evil and opposite to the truth of God. The purpose for this post is to look deeper into what is going on in our world as it grows further away from Jesus.

The pentegram, goats head on a 5 or 6 star surface is the counterfeit for the prophesy that there would be a star rise out of Jacob. Num. 24:17 It was a event all people know well of. At the birth of Jesus a star led many to the cave he was born in. That is also where a lot of occult movies and stories are always mentioning a prophesy of someone to come and save a people.

That is why there is the star of David as a nation of Israel. Jesus is the generation of David through Mary and Joseph. Joseph is his father by law but also from David.

It is also amazing to know that the astrology coruption, which is occult, is a opposite of astronomy where the gospel is seen as a picture show yearly in the stars and constelations.

it is always been the same with good or evil angels. it is most likely hidden that the alien interest is truly based on demons who are able to put on human and other forms. The aliens are able to give wisdom etc which is really all part of the inteligence which Satan had before he fell. This knowledge will only be to further his plans for a rebelious take over of the world when antichrist comes.
 

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~ It is probably best to know GOD's word and to have an intimate personal relationship with HIM over knowing about the devil.
~ Knowing GOD will reveal the works of darkness whilst knowing the devil will not reveail the works of GOD.
~ Continue to discuss amongst yourselves...

Peace,

Leimeng

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

(***Insert Personal One Liner Here***)
 
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~ It is probably best to know GOD's word and to have an intimate personal relationship with HIM over knowing about the devil.

I agree one should take priority over the other, by all means, but you can do both. To be ignorant of the designs of the devil is to risk being outwitted by him (2 Cor 2:11).
 
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~ It is probably best to know GOD's word and to have an intimate personal relationship with HIM over knowing about the devil.
~ Knowing GOD will reveal the works of darkness whilst knowing the devil will not reveail the works of GOD.
~ Continue to discuss amongst yourselves...

Peace,

Leimeng

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

(***Insert Personal One Liner Here***)
Actually I prefer to know the enemy so I can identify his ways and avoid them even when they are hidden in the churches.
 
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if you ever want to know what is occult, then whatever is evil and opposite to the truth of God. The purpose for this post is to look deeper into what is going on in our world as it grows further away from Jesus.

The pentegram, goats head on a 5 or 6 star surface is the counterfeit for the prophesy that there would be a star rise out of Jacob. Num. 24:17 It was a event all people know well of. At the birth of Jesus a star led many to the cave he was born in. That is also where a lot of occult movies and stories are always mentioning a prophesy of someone to come and save a people.

That is why there is the star of David as a nation of Israel. Jesus is the generation of David through Mary and Joseph. Joseph is his father by law but also from David.

It is also amazing to know that the astrology coruption, which is occult, is a opposite of astronomy where the gospel is seen as a picture show yearly in the stars and constelations.

it is always been the same with good or evil angels. it is most likely hidden that the alien interest is truly based on demons who are able to put on human and other forms. The aliens are able to give wisdom etc which is really all part of the inteligence which Satan had before he fell. This knowledge will only be to further his plans for a rebelious take over of the world when antichrist comes.

How is that exposing the occult? Believe me, I know a good bit about the occult. I knew the prime candidate for next worldwide high priestess of the main goddess of witchcraft.

You are also making a lot of assumptions based on 17th century literature which is based on Augustine's doctrines. When will people stop taking their doctrine from Paradise Lost and actually study the relevant scriptures?

Lucier is 'ben Shachar' not 'ben Elohyim'. Shachar was a Canaanite deity that was 'ben El', an angel. Lucifer is the spirit of a dead nephilim, not a fallen angel. All the fallen angels are already bound according to 2 Pet 2 and Jude 6. The pre-flood Watchers were bound in Tartarus at the time of the flood and the 4 others bound at the Euphrates most likely at the Tower of Babel. ONLY the spirits of their offspring are available to effect the world as 'evil spirits'. Lucifer is just a Latin reference to the ancient pagan sun god. It isn't a name, it's a title. It would be Pheobus in the Greek, ie Pheobus Apollo, ie Apollyon.
 
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For those who say we need not know about our enemy, could you imagine the US going into a battle with an enemy they knew absolutely nothing about?
that is ABSOLUTELY true for natural man who does NOT have communication/intel from the HOLY SPIRIT.

but... if we stay in GOD'S WORD and stay in close communion/communication with the HOLY SPIRIT HE could lead and guide us THOUGH or AROUND the dark valleys/traps the devil wants to attack us with.

we need to know the devil is a liar and is trying to destroy us and STOP us from believing and obeying GOD.

but then AFTER that our best victories come through KNOWING our GOD and HIS rightly divided WORD.
 
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that is ABSOLUTELY true for natural man who does NOT have communication/intel from the HOLY SPIRIT.

but... if we stay in GOD'S WORD and stay in close communion/communication with the HOLY SPIRIT HE could lead and guide us THOUGH or AROUND the dark valleys/traps the devil wants to attack us with.

we need to know the devil is a liar and is trying to destroy us and STOP us from believing and obeying GOD.

but then AFTER that our best victories come through KNOWING our GOD and HIS rightly divided WORD.

Yet the WORD is full of the ways and attributes of the enemy. We are to KNOW that WORD so the Holy Spirit can bring it to mind.

Trying to hide his ways is the way of the enemy. This is one of the reasons the pagan religions are 'mystery religions'. You have to be a high level initiate to gain the secret knowledge that can not be shared with outsiders.
 
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Yet the WORD is full of the ways and attributes of the enemy. We are to KNOW that WORD so the Holy Spirit can bring it to mind.

Trying to hide his ways is the way of the enemy. This is one of the reasons the pagan religions are 'mystery religions'. You have to be a high level initiate to gain the secret knowledge that can not be shared with outsiders.
yes. amen. GOD gave us HIS WORD and HIS HOLY SPIRIT. this is MORE than sufficient for anything we may encounter.

i know a young christian woman who was dealing with a serious occult situation and NO ONE wanted to help her. they tried but the occultists scared the other christians off leaving the young christian to deal with EVERYTHING alone.

within 6 months several of the occultists were dead and the young christian women successfully helped an ex-occultist who was trained from birth to be the high priestess to escape and live free in JESUS from harm.

this young christian woman knew ONLY the leading of the HOLY SPIRIT and the WORD of GOD.

she had never encountered covens and spells and death threats before. her strength was that she read the BIBLE cover to cover through SEVERAL times each year, and she prayed in tongues continuously, and she loved GOD and used worship and high praise as one weapon that caused the enemy to stumble back and fall.
 
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yes. amen. GOD gave us HIS WORD and HIS HOLY SPIRIT. this is MORE than sufficient for anything we may encounter.

i know a young christian woman who was dealing with a serious occult situation and NO ONE wanted to help her. they tried but the occultists scared the other christians off leaving the young christian to deal with EVERYTHING alone.

within 6 months several of the occultists were dead and the young christian women successfully helped an ex-occultist who was trained from birth to be the high priestess to escape and live free in JESUS from harm.

this young christian woman knew ONLY the leading of the HOLY SPIRIT and the WORD of GOD.

she had never encountered covens and spells and death threats before.
My point exactly. A little knowledge of binding and loosing (keys of the kingdom) would have helped tremendously.
"My people perish through lack of knowledge"
 
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My point exactly. A little knowledge of binding and loosing (keys of the kingdom) would have helped tremendously.
"My people perish through lack of knowledge"
yes. amen. she found everything she needed in the WORD of GOD. she used binding and loosing a lot. i forgot about that until you mentioned it. good point.

she also sang or used the name of JESUS a lot. and the blood of JESUS and the WORD of the COVENANT (testiment) a lot too. she took the scripture about overcoming the devil with the BLOOD of the LAMB and the WORD of her testimony (COVENANT) VERY serious.

david used the WORD of his covenant with GOD when he came up against goliath.
 
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~ It is probably best to know GOD's word and to have an intimate personal relationship with HIM over knowing about the devil.
~ Knowing GOD will reveal the works of darkness whilst knowing the devil will not reveail the works of GOD.
~ Continue to discuss amongst yourselves...

Peace,

Leimeng

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

(***Insert Personal One Liner Here***)

AMEN


The more you know what the truth is, the easier it is to spot the false.
 
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Spotting what is false is the easy part.
Doing something about it can get rather harder
(even to the extent of prayer and fasting)
So many things that are harder for 'adults', are often confounded
by the wisdom of LITTLE-children because these former are yet Closer :) to God & His Love
 
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Lucier is 'ben Shachar' not 'ben Elohyim'. Shachar was a Canaanite deity that was 'ben El', an angel. Lucifer is the spirit of a dead nephilim, not a fallen angel. [\QUOTE]

Absolutely in error.

Lucifer was a Cherub. Scripture speaks of his fall from heaven and from the status of an Angel.
 
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Lucier is 'ben Shachar' not 'ben Elohyim'. Shachar was a Canaanite deity that was 'ben El', an angel. Lucifer is the spirit of a dead nephilim, not a fallen angel. [\QUOTE]

Absolutely in error.

Lucifer was a Cherub. Scripture speaks of his fall from heaven and from the status of an Angel.
So you get your doctrine from Paradise Lost?

Learn Hebrew. Shamayim is the Hebrew word translated Heavens. It is one of two unique words in Hebrew that ALWAYS has the dual plural ending 'ayim'. It can be the realm of Yah (the 3rd heaven) OR the sky (air or stars). Both are considered Heavens.

He was cast down from the sky, not the domain of Yah. He was trying to ASCEND into the sky, above the clouds. Isa 14 is about the destruction of the tower of Babel and casting down the pagan sun god that was set up as a deity. He tried to set his throne above the stars of Yah, ie his father. He is cast down, dies, his body decays, is eaten by worms, he descends into hell where the kings there say 'Is this the man ...?' Why do you think it is a referenced to the 'king of Babel'? Molech is spelled the same as King in Hebrew. It was just later vowel pointed differently and used as a proper name of that pagan sun god. Molech is vowel pointed as 'shameful king' and is used as a proper name in the English translations. Even the image of Molech is half man half bull a reference to being a cross between man and godly. He was a son of the pagan 'El'. El doesn't mean god but 'the Mighty One' so it has to be taken from the context of the speaker for what mighty one is being referenced.

How is the 'fiery flying serpent' the child/fruit/offspring of the cockatrice? Who was the cockatrices who had vipers hatch from his eggs? Who is the 'serpent's root' verses the cockatrice verses the 'fiery flying serpent' (which means Saraph, an angelic being but is CHILD of the cockatrice)? How was Satan cast down 'as lightning'? Who was Hadad, the thunderer, the god of lightning? When was he cast down? Who were 'Benebezek', the 'children of lightning'?

A cherub is a winged being. He can still be a cherub if he was a nephilim born winged. One of his symbols is the lion and we know the winged lion in Daniel was given the heart of a man and had his wings plucked by Yah. Each of the animals in Daniels empire dream is the symbol of the major principality behind that empire. The winged lion was the principality behind the Babylonian empire. The bear is one of the symbols of his twin sister. The leopard is a symbol of Nimrod. The fourth beast is a reference to Ares/Mars the half brother of the twins.

The passage in Eze 28 is addressed to 'king of Tyrus'. That passage calls him a cherub. Melqart is one of the titles of Molech in Tyrus. It means 'king of the city', a reference to Babel. Molech/Melqart was the primary deity of Tyrus. The passage before in the same chapter is to Baal and the passage after is to 'she of Sidon' ie Asthoreth. Many of the ancient pagan gods are represented as winged.

Both passages are about the ancient pagan sun god and Revelation even names the 'king of the abyss' as Apollyon, 'the destroyer' in the Greek. The Greek god Apollo.

Lucifer is a Latin translation of the Hebrew Heylel. It is the Latin form that has an association with Venus. Heylel means 'light bringer' or 'shining one'. It is an epitaph of the pagan sun god. Sun god worship is condemned all over scripture with dozens of references. Lucifer in the Latin is the masculine form of Venus, who was called Diana Luciferah in Ephesus. Diana was the roman name of Artemis, the twin sister of Apollo. She is Luciferah. The masculine form is a reference to the sun god, not Venus but Apollo.

Isa 57 is about the Baalim worship being conducted outside Jerusalem. Verse 9 equates Molech worship as 'debasing thyself unto Sheol'.

Standard dogma is loosely based on the misunderstanding of a few passages while I can show you many others that are ignored. For example, read Job 38 and look for the references for the Morning, the Dayspring. It is a reference to Shachar. He was 'the morning'.

Why don't you actually study it out for yourself instead of spouting doctrines spread by Augustine and propagated by Milton?

Molech = Melqart = Milcom = Malcham = Baal-hermon = Baal-zebub = Shemesh = On = Rah = Apollo = Lucifer = Molech of Babel = Melqart (King of Tyrus) ...

I have so much material I am considering writing a book on the topic. The clues are all over scripture. Even Eliphaz Job's friend was a sun god worshiper. Eliphaz directly states his god traverses the sky/heavens but can't see through dark clouds. Try studying Job in the Hebrew. Job's friends were pagans. They followed different gods then Job. They even use different words translated as 'God' into the English but most of them should be 'god/gods/goddess'. Job uses Elohyim while the others use El, Eloah, and Shaddad (destroyer).

The four angels that are bound at the Euphrates were called Zeus, Hera, Hades and Poseidon by the Greeks. Lucifer is just a title of the Greek god Apollo who was cast down for his sins and for setting up the paganistic worship at Babel. Babel is the source of the ancient paganism but the names of the individuals were split into many languages at that time.

It was Zeus that was cast down and imprisoned for the sin of having children after the flood and being the source of the Nephilim pollution after the flood. He was 'the morning' that led the stars in song when the foundations of the earth were laid. He was the one appointed by Yah to 'shake the wicked from the skirts of the earth'. It is the spirits of their children that rule the demonic realm. There are NO fallen angels that are not imprisoned. See 2 Pet 2 and Jude 6. It isn't until the tribulation that those angels are once again set free, both the pre-flood Watchers and the post flood 4 bound at the Euphrates once again walk the earth.

Lucifer is just the spirit, ghost of a dead Nephilim from the time of Babel. His twin sister is the 'great harlot of Babel', the mother of Nimrod, the goddess Ashtoreth/Diana/... 'the queen of heaven/sky' from her position as queen mother at Babel. She is the primary goddess of witchcraft and 2nd member of the unholy trinity. Her son Nimrod was later worshiped as Baal. His spirit is the anti-christ spirit. Those 3 are the unholy trinity referenced all over the Old Testament. The fourth lesser member is the human mother of the twins. She is worshiped also under many names. Basically she is 'mother earth' mother of mankind and the gods. It was Na'amah, the wife of Noah. She was called Asherah by the Canaanites and one of her primary titles is 'she who treads upon the sea' a reference to being in the ark during the flood. Those four are the 'four winds/spirits' that rule over the four different divisions of the demonic realms, ie 'evil spirits' not fallen angels.

The four angels bound at the Euphrates were the mighty angels that guarded Eden before the flood. After Canaan castrated Noah in the 'uncovered his nakedness' event, Noah's wife had children by one of those angels. Those offspring are the Tares planted in 'the earth' after 'son of man(Adam)', ie Noah sowed his seed. Those of Nephilim descent walk among us even today. When they die, they are 'evil spirits' that serve the demonic realm. Demons are the spirits of beings that were a cross of angel/human or angel/animal hybrids. There very existence was brought about by rebellion against Yah.

The high priestess of Ashtoreth that I was in conflict against many years ago knew exactly who and what her goddess was. Ashtoreth's spirit had been visiting her since she was 14 raising her up as a worldwide high priestess candidate. Ellen KNEW her goddess was a ghost of the daughter of an angel that was born after the flood. Ellen's 'familiar spirit' was the spirit of Ashtoreth's eldest granddaughter.

Where do you think the giants came from after the flood? Why did Yah order the extermination of certain branches the Canaanite bloodline? It was to destroy the groups that were of Nephilim descent. Sidon was a son of Canaan by Ashtoreth. It was his payment for castrating Noah so he got children of angelic descent.

If you don't just cherry pick selected scriptures and take them totally out of context, you get a totally different picture presented in scripture. For example, the 1/3 of the 'stars of heaven' that are pulled down by the dragon in Revelation is a future event during the tribulation, NOT some mythical past rebellion in the 3rd heaven. The 'stars of heaven' are referenced all over the Old Testament as the 'host of heaven' associated with the pagan worship. It is the major power in the 2nd heaven, the realm of air under the 'prince of the powers of the air'. It isn't 1/3 of the holy angels of Yah.

I have far more scripture to support my understanding they anyone that supports the standard dogma.
 
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First, I get my theology from scripture, not the mix of folklore and apocryphal, spirit guide mumbo jumbo you posted in your response.

Second, I know Hebrew, three years to get my Masters and a subsequent 19 years of continued study.

When you would like to discuss scripture. I'll be here.
 
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sometimes scripture SEEMS to say nothing on some subjects.

sometimes scripture DOES say nothing on certain subjects.

but no matter what the case we CANNOT accept extra/non-BIBLICAL information as true and infallible.

GOD said HIS WORDS were true: they are spirit and they are life. but that cannot be said of anyone else.

when GOD is silent on a subject we CAN'T fill in the blanks with material from another source.

wof need scripture references for EVERYTHING. the NT says the bereans were nobler than most: they searched the scriptures to see if what they were told was true.

when non-biblical sources are referenced we cannot search it, therefore we cannot accept it as infallible and true. we are told to meditate GOD'S WORDS day and night. HE made it clear that HIS WORDS were FAR above and beyond all other WORDS.
 
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