Do you own a gun

[98cwitr]

^^^this.

 

[spiersdodgerblue]

i'm an NRA member so i am very suspicious of this question.

i'll answer yes anyway, but i believe in gun control very strongly. In fact, I think i'm the only one who should have them. pretty sure most of mine would be illegal if i lived in California, that's why i live in a free state.

And your thinking.......what, that this has stopped anyone in that state???? Being illegal that is...

And I'm sure you too, are even governed by rules.

As for guns in my home, No.

 

[mont974x4]

In a perfect society, guns wouldn't exist.

hogwash

 

[mont974x4]

I own various firearms. Each are designed like any other tool I own...for a specific purpose and handled as such.

 

[dies-l]

hogwash

Well, I would define a perfect society as one in which man never entered a fallen state. In Eden, we were vegetarians. And, if we were without sin, we would never kill or be killed. Thus, there would be no need for guns. And, if there were no need for guns, there would be no reason to have invented them.

But, I don't think that bubbles was thinking quite to that extreme in making this comment.

 

[Timothew]

In a perfect society, guns wouldn't exist.

How would anyone shoot skeet? Some perfect society

 

[mont974x4]

It hinges on how you view guns. If you view them as criminal objects incapable of anything good..then I suppose you could make that claim.

I see them no different than a hammer, nail gun, table saw, or any other tool. It would be like saying in a perfect world we would not need a means to build shelter's. What about building a swing set, or a slide? These are not "needs" but they make life more enjoyable and God is not against that at all. So, we can be in a perfect world and still develop and use such tools to make life more enjoyable.


Now, let's imagine sin did not enter the world. Man was left in charge of creation. Eventually herds need to be thinned. It is a matter of proper wildlife natural resource management. Plus, God never said that man was not allowed to eat the animals. It stands to reason man should be, and would be, allowed to develop tools necessary for maintaining creation and just making life easier.





anyways...back to the comment.....comparable statements:
In a perfect world there would be no chocolate.
In a perfect world there would be no swimming pools.


See...none of these things are inherently bad. What is bad is how we use them and that depends solely on the person using them. However, in a perfect world we may still have these things, we would just be guaranteed that they would always be used for good and noble purposes and not abused, misused, or otherwise used as instruments of harm.

 

[silence_dogood]

How would anyone shoot skeet? Some perfect society

...or groundhogs.

How would I intimidate my daughters' boyfriends?

 

[bubbles881]

I guess I should have elaborated a bit. Here's the key point: we don't live in a perfect society!

I am still curious though. In a perfect world, what WOULD be the point of guns? What is the specific purpose of this tool exactly?

 

[silence_dogood]

I guess I should have elaborated a bit. Here's the key point: we don't live in a perfect society!

I am still curious though. In a perfect world, what WOULD be the point of guns? What is the specific purpose of this tool exactly?

Recreation. Entertainment. Hunting.

 

[mont974x4]

I use mine to feed my family and others in need.

 

[Texan40]

I guess I should have elaborated a bit. Here's the key point: we don't live in a perfect society!

I am still curious though. In a perfect world, what WOULD be the point of guns? What is the specific purpose of this tool exactly?

Guns are weapons created to inflict bodily damage. I don't think there is any grey area there. They are useful tools in hunting and can even be recreational in target shooting but they were invented and designed as weapons of war. As with any inanimate object, however, what we do with it once it exists is perhaps a greater concern than why it was initially created.

 

[silence_dogood]

I use mine to feed my family and others in need.

I use mine to scare census workers.

 

[mont974x4]

I use mine to scare census workers.

LOL turns out I did not need guns for that.

 

[dies-l]

It hinges on how you view guns. If you view them as criminal objects incapable of anything good..then I suppose you could make that claim.

I see them no different than a hammer, nail gun, table saw, or any other tool. It would be like saying in a perfect world we would not need a means to build shelter's. What about building a swing set, or a slide? These are not "needs" but they make life more enjoyable and God is not against that at all. So, we can be in a perfect world and still develop and use such tools to make life more enjoyable.


Now, let's imagine sin did not enter the world. Man was left in charge of creation. Eventually herds need to be thinned. It is a matter of proper wildlife natural resource management. Plus, God never said that man was not allowed to eat the animals. It stands to reason man should be, and would be, allowed to develop tools necessary for maintaining creation and just making life easier.





anyways...back to the comment.....comparable statements:
In a perfect world there would be no chocolate.
In a perfect world there would be no swimming pools.


See...none of these things are inherently bad. What is bad is how we use them and that depends solely on the person using them. However, in a perfect world we may still have these things, we would just be guaranteed that they would always be used for good and noble purposes and not abused, misused, or otherwise used as instruments of harm.

It's an interesting trip down philosophy lane, but all of the reasons that you give why guns would be needed point to an imperfect world. In a perfect world, we would not have hammers, nail guns, and table saws, either. We wouldn't need them, as we wouldn't be left to meet our needs by the fruit of our toil. Tools exist to make difficult things easier. If we had never fallen, we would have no difficult things in need of doing.

My point is not that guns are inherently bad, just that they would be unnecessary "in a perfect world" as would most technological innovations. IOW, I am just being difficult for the sake of being difficult.

 

[mont974x4]

In a perfect world you would not want extra's? You will note I was not addressing needs...but wants.

I'll leave you to be difficult then.

 

[Hisbygrace]

My husband owned several guns, but after his death I got rid of them.

 

[dies-l]

In a perfect world you would not want extra's? You will note I was not addressing needs...but wants.

I'll leave you to be difficult then.

In all honesty, having never lived in a perfect world, it's difficult to speculate. But, I think it's fair to say that if you take out that one little sin (and every little sin thereafter), the world becomes a VERY different place.

 

[Hairspan]

I got my first gun because my mother moved away to keep my nieces while my sister and her husband were in iraq and at the time I was very young and getting off at 3am.

 

[C-Man]

I'm thinking of getting a decent 12-gauge for protection purposes. I'd not kill a home intruder if I had any choice in the matter, but I've got no qualms about taking a hand off if he comes at me.