Bush Praised for Defending Free Speech on Theory of Life's Origin.

[Dracil]

Surely you're joking, Mr. Croc.

 

[Heiroglyph]

Surely you are not serious?

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v23/i2/speciation.asp

 

[Dracil]

I guess you didn't get the reference to a certain book.

Here's a link that's actually related to your claim.

PRATT 215: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA215.html

/me invites Croc into the Creation and Evolution forum.

No no, it's nothing like a spider asking a fly into its abode.

Edited to point out that Croc edited out his link after I posted this.

 

[Heiroglyph]

Creationism can be used to describe "similarities and differences between organisms, fossils, biogeography, drug resistance, extreme features such as the peacock's tail, relative virulence of parasites, and much more besides" too. Also it does it alot better. Bit of a stretch don't you think for them to claim that they use the theory of evolution in Astrophysics and Architecture? We had great architecture long before Darwin was born

 

[Dark_Lite]

Creationism can be used to describe "similarities and differences between organisms, fossils, biogeography, drug resistance, extreme features such as the peacock's tail, relative virulence of parasites, and much more besides" too. Also it does it alot better.

"How did this form?"

"God."

"....Ok. What predictions could we make about what to expect in this DNA here?"

"Let's pray and find out"

Then you wind up with as many different answers as there are people.

Whee!

 

[Heiroglyph]

read this site. there's your answer
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v23/i2/speciation.asp

 

[Dark_Lite]

Well... within reason, pal.

Though I wouldn't mind learnin' Alchemy... dunno why, always had some interest in it.

Alchemy is an interesting subject. It does still exist and is practiced by people.

It's kind of a pseudo-religion mixed with chemistry. As to its merits? I think they mostly exist in the medicinal properties of the herbs used and the self-transformation brought to the alchemist through his own thoughts (they would say their self-transformation is through the alchemy but I would think it has more to do with them thinking that and thus producing their own transformation within themselves).

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

I am sure he can formulate a sentence just fine, he has two degrees from IVY League Institutions. Some people are simply not gifted speakers

He got into Yale because his father and grandfather went there. And, as he likes to bring up, was a C student. I don't know for certain, but someone told me he got rejected from U of Texas. Pretty difficult to get rejected from a state school in which one is a resident. Can anyone verify this?

For some wonderful Bushisms, go here:

Dubyaspeak.com

As for ID, someone please show me one article in a reputable peer-reviewed journal.

 

[Dracil]

As for ID, someone please show me one article in a reputable peer-reviewed journal.

They can't, and they'll just blame it on the Evil Atheist Conspiracy.

 

[MalcolmX]

Here is the one question which shows that creationism cannot be taught in a science class in any capacity. Creationism requires the God factor. Is this God factor falsifiable? Is God falsifiable? No, then intelligent design is not science, it is nothing more than a philosophy. Can a person that believes that gnomes created the world have their philosophy taught in science class too?

As to the reference to an Ivy league education, it is no more special than a non-Ivy league education (this coming from a graduate of an Ivy league institution).

 

[Ozymandius]

I am sure he can formulate a sentence just fine, he has two degrees from IVY League Institutions. Some people are simply not gifted speakers

I hear nowadays it helps to be a legacy applicant, or know some important donors.

 

[Arnold_Philips]

It makes no sense for schools to keep teaching something that runs contrary to the religious beliefs of many of the students and at the same time serves no purpose in science. Absolutely nothing is based on the theory of evolution it is just standing out there all on its own affecting nothing and there is no reason to keep teaching it. Biology does not depends on it, physics do not depend on it, medicine does not depend on it, absolutely nothing depends on it.

No life science makes sense without evolution.

 

[Heiroglyph]

Oh yeh you're just not aware of what the alternative theories are. Creationism science has come along way and is making evolution look more and more foolish an idea every day. What is even more amazing is how the Bible's account is becoming more and more obviously proven through science. Since it is unlikely that someone, probably Moses, who wrote Genesis could have known so much back in those days the claim that God must have told him what to write gets more and more credible. Of course God knew that all of this would be proven out as well, and also knew that there will always be those with hard hearts unwilling to believe in him, no matter how much evidence he gave us and how many people he showed himself to who have testified.

 

[MalcolmX]

Oh yeh you're just not aware of what the alternative theories are. Creationism science has come along way and is making evolution look more and more foolish an idea every day. What is even more amazing is how the Bible's account is becoming more and more obviously proven through science. Since it is unlikely that someone, probably Moses, who wrote Genesis could have known so much back in those days the claim that God must have told him what to write gets more and more credible. Of course God knew that all of this would be proven out as well, and also knew that there will always be those with hard hearts unwilling to believe in him, no matter how much evidence he gave us and how many people he showed himself to who have testified.

Question: Is God falsifiable in creationism? If he is not, it is not science.

 

[elanor]

(AgapePress) - President Bush is being praised for stating that public school students should be exposed to different schools of thought on the subject of the origins of life.

I completely agree! The scientific theories should be taught in the science classroom, and the faith-based theories should be taught in the comparative religions classroom.

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Oh yeh you're just not aware of what the alternative theories are. Creationism science has come along way and is making evolution look more and more foolish an idea every day. What is even more amazing is how the Bible's account is becoming more and more obviously proven through science. Since it is unlikely that someone, probably Moses, who wrote Genesis could have known so much back in those days the claim that God must have told him what to write gets more and more credible. Of course God knew that all of this would be proven out as well, and also knew that there will always be those with hard hearts unwilling to believe in him, no matter how much evidence he gave us and how many people he showed himself to who have testified.

How did Moses finish the Pentateuch? Also, which version of the creation of languages do you believe?

 

[Heiroglyph]

pure ignorance

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Since Moses dies right at the end of Deuteronomy it is highly probably that he wrote it right before his death himself. There's a few things there which a prophet my know like that the people would not have such a great prophet such as himself again, and that they would weep for him. There are only a few verses which are placed after his death. Since Moses was a prophet God could have told him such things. The Bible states how Moses finished writing down the law shortly before his death.
It wouldn't be that hard for Moses who was writing down the first 5 books near the end to write down, " and Moses finished writing the law" since he knew he was all done, would it? So there is no problem there at all.

Study the JEPD theory of real Biblical scholars.

Im not sure what your other question means.

Did we get different languages from NoahCo. or the tower of Babel? Come now, I thought you would know those two myths.

 

[Kripost]

Does this mean astrology can be taught as a science subject as well? It can be shown that every single planet and star influences all bodies on earth through gravity.

 

[Tenka]

What could be taught about ID that would take longer than making a cup of coffee?