Bill to protect Down Syndrome babies presented to Missouri

[AionPhanes]

Environmentalism isn't supposed to be a science it's a movement to clean up and protect the environment. Environmentalists do tend to use scientific data and findings to help point out areas of concern though. The data obtained via the science of climatology would be a good example. Climatology shows that global warming is occuring and that cutting co2 emissions could effect future levels of heating. Environmentalism says "we should actually go ahead and cut said emissions."

 

[MehGuy]

Senator David Sater (R-Missouri) has submitted a bill that would bar abortions because of a prenatal diagnosis, test or screening indicating the potential of Down Syndrome in the unborn baby. Sater tells OneNewsNow he took his cue for the bill after seeing North Dakota and Ohio banning abortions because of Down Syndrome.

“Almost 90 percent of Down Syndrome children in the womb are being aborted right now .... I think that's a startling statistic, and I would like to see that decreased dramatically,” he says.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-...ct-down-syndrome-babies-presented-to-Missouri

Are not such children the least of Christ's brethren?

 

[Nithavela]

Hey now, let's not act as if any woman has a societal obligation to abort.

Of course not. If a woman desires to keep a baby with down syndrome, more power to her. But if this bill passes, those women who wouldn't want to give birth to a baby with down syndrome would be forced to do so.

There has been talk in this thread about families pulling through together and living a happy family life with a down syndrome child. Being able to actively choose for this life is part of that equation.

 

[Armoured]

We know three families with at least one Downs child. Every time we visit with these kids I feel like I am entertainingly angels.

One family is so blessed with love they adopted a Downs child.

Good for them. But don't you think the families involved know their own situation best?

 

[Cearbhall]

Of course not. If a woman desires to keep a baby with down syndrome, more power to her. But if this bill passes, those women who wouldn't want to give birth to a baby with down syndrome would be forced to do so.

Ah, got it. I thought you were making a slightly different comment. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

We know three families with at least one Downs child. Every time we visit with these kids I feel like I am entertainingly angels.

One family is so blessed with love they adopted a Downs child.

That's great, but those families aren't representative of the pregnant woman who is terrified that her child will end up abused and neglected in a group home or some other institution because she knows she doesn't have the time and financial means to care for the child herself. It's a very different situation when you're going to have to trust society 100% to care for your child and you find it impossible to be so trusting based on how things are. It's not always about a lack of love.

 

[Cearbhall]

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[lasthero]

Yes especially inevitable if some other carbon based life form decides to take life from us.

It's actually equally inevitable.

 

[Tallguy88]

I hope it passes. Too many people see folks with Down's Syndrome as Lebensunwertes Leben (life unworthy of life) and the abortion stats bear this out. It's Eugenics, plain and simple.

 

[Cearbhall]

It's Eugenics, plain and simple.

How so? I would guess that very few people make this decision with the greater good of the human race in mind. It's usually about individual circumstances, personal family planning goals, and finances.

 

[Tallguy88]

How so? I would guess that very few people make this decision with the greater good of the human race in mind. It's usually about individual circumstances, personal family planning goals, and finances.

I suppose it could be considered eugenics in the outcome, even if the specific intent were different, especially considering the high percentages of Down's Syndrome abortions.

 

[Nithavela]

Preventing Down Syndrome has nothing to do with eugenics. Down syndrome is not caused by a faulty gene.

 

[Tallguy88]

Preventing Down Syndrome has nothing to do with eugenics. Down syndrome is not caused by a faulty gene.

Biological facts didn't save Down's Syndrome people from Eugenics programs in the past.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4

 

[Nithavela]

So we should continue the ignorance, gotcha.

 

[Tallguy88]

So we should continue the ignorance, gotcha.

We should try to save as many of these precious lives as we can, from those who do not value them as worthy of life. Whether you call it "eugenics", "genocide", or "choice", it is wrong to kill them.

 

[redleghunter]

I know...the mention of 'Christ' just sets many to screaming.

 

[MehGuy]

I know...the mention of 'Christ' just sets many to screaming.

That's not why I posted a cartoon gif screaming.

 

[redleghunter]

That's not why I posted a cartoon gif screaming.

Oh ok.

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

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[Nithavela]

Are you seriously determining a person's worth and right to life based on their IQ score? Ever notice how it's usually the gifted and talented people that cause the most damage in society?

We need to focus on eradicating evil, not those who are born less than perfect.

Ever notice how it's usually the gifted and talented people who cause the most good in society, too?

I don't believe in evil.

 

[alsughasoughaiuyfygh]

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