rzuvich said:
1Timothy 1:4
Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
This is a CHRISTIAN forum and there are so-called Christians actually defending Darwinist Evolutionism???
Whoa, talk about apostacy! I have a good understanding of evolutionism as a former evolutionst/athiest. It is not a lack of understanding I suffer from, it is just a fact that evolutionism is false, not science, not scientific and it is religious (%100). It is not based upon nothing but lies, ad hominem attacks on Christians, scientists and science.
Wow, first post and you weigh in with a doozy!! First please don't call it "evolution
ism". It's simply evolution. Of course there are Christians (not even "so-called") understanding/defending evolution. They have the ability to think objectively.
Also, please don't use the word "evolutionist"--I agree with evolution, but that no more makes me an evolutionist that a gravitationalist.
Please define science and religion then we can discuss your claims. Also, please show one article on evolution that attacks Christians or Christianity.
rzuvich said:
Even IF people could mix with apes does not show origins from them or any other ape-like anything. It proves nothing in regards to any supposed evolutionary relationship. A common DESIGNER is the Bible's answer, not common descent. Screwdrivers may be phillips or flat; it does not follow that one evolved into another. Lug nuts from a Chevy can be put onto other cars....they did not evolve into other cars.
A common designer is the Bibles answer? If you start with the assumption something can never be wrong, in your mind it will never be wrong. You have to work from observations to conclusions, not the other way around. Also, screwdrivers and bolts are inorganic and do not reproduce. These are two of the most hiliarious examples ever put forth on these forums. And you claim to understand evolution?
rzuvich said:
You have to RE-INTERPRET the Bible in light of the claims of men to arrive at Evolutionism from the Bible. It is not in there, except as prophecied as a false religion of the last days. It says "evening and morning were the ____day", for crying out loud!
So on what basis do you interpret the Bible? Which translation? How do you know it's the correct translation? If there are many different translations, meaning those who translated it don't agree on it's interpretation, how can you be certain you're correct?
Again, define religion.
rzuvich said:
Any CHRISTIAN who defends Darwinism lacks knowledge of both science, Evolutionism and the Bible-and wholesale rejects what God wrote concerning origins. No, Genesis is not open to interpretation because of what men say (no matter HOW MANY say it). God knows how to communicate-it is the rejector who does not know how to listen.
What is Darwinism? A worship of Darwin? Scientists don't worship Darwin or anyone else. They study evolution. Evolution has come a long way since 1859. (Hint: "both" means two, not three--but a small point).
Again, which interpretation of the Bible do you use and why? If God knows how to communicate, you'd think s/he would have done a better job by now.
rzuvich said:
True scientists can not accept the fable and religion of evolution, despite how they claim Creationists are not true scientists. They cannot even practice real science ***in regards to origins***, since they are biased religious nuts.
Again, define religion and "real science" and we'll go from there.
Please show one ID/Creationist article in a respected peer-reviewed journal.
Show how they are biased religious nuts. Please be specific with names and supporting evidence.
rzuvich said:
No Christians should EVER defend such a deadly, murderous religion as Darwiniam. Ever. Ugh...it is sickening.
Umm, ok. Back away from the keyboard and take a deep breath. "Darwiniam"??!! That is a new one. Kudos.
rzuvich said:
True science knows nothing of evolutionism.
On this I agree, as there is no such thing as evolutionism.
rzuvich said:
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
"Millions of years" is a fable.
2 Peter 3:3-4
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
In six days means six days, not millions of years.
Using the Bible to show the Bible is true is circular reasoning.
rzuvich said:
His,
Bob Z.
Former Evolutionist/Atheist
Why were you once an atheist out of curiosity? What made you see the "error" of your ways?