boughtbygrace said:
More of my Outline... everything here is what the "Pentecostals" Teach...
6g. The false doctrine that the believer can be rid of his sin nature
Bible Answer:
a. Paul taught that the believer still has the struggle with sin
(Rom. 7:14-21; Gal. 5:16-17).
b. John teaches that the believer still has sin (1 John 1:8, 10).
6h. The false doctrine that victory in the Christian life comes
through unusual baptisms and experiences
Bible Answer:
a. The Bible does not exhort us to make spiritual leaps through
unusual experiences. Rather, it exhorts us to GROW in Christ (1 Pet.
2:1-2; 2 Pet. 3:18).
b. The apostles wrote many epistles instructing the believers about
how to deal with sin an spiritual problems, but they never instructed
the believers to seek a second baptism or other such special
experiences.
6i. The false doctrine that visions and prophecies are for today
Bible Answer:
a. The Bible says the faith was completed in the days of the apostles (Jude 3).
b. The Bible says that the Scriptures are sufficient (2 Tim. 3:16-17).
c. The Bible says that Scripture is more sure than visions (2 Pet. 1:16-21).
d. The Bible says that prophecies will pass away (1 Cor. 13:8).
I don't know what you are refering to about victory coming through unusual experiences. But maybe this is what you mean?
Acts 2:1-5
2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
KJV
Or maybe this?
1 Cor 14:4
4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
KJV
Or this?
1 Cor 12:28
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues .
KJV
Acts 19:1-6
19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
KJV
Getting a baptism of the Holy Spirit is mentioned in scripture, and in no way does it keep anyone from having to grow and mature. We see this with Peter. He was there on the Day of Pentacost, he recieved an unusual baptism of the Spirit, and yet he clearly had to grow. One way that God later spoke to him was through a vision.
Acts 10:9-13
9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
KJV
But later even after the revelation that gentiles were made clean, he decides he has to eat with the circumcised. Obviously, even with his new gifts from the Spirit, he still had some maturing to do.
Jude 3
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
KJV
This can't be talking about the finished Bible because Paul wrote this.He was talking to those who had received the Gospel, and telling them to fight for the truth.
Now as far as visions or prophecies not being for today, I don't know how you can get around this one.
Acts 2:17-18
17 And it shall come to pass
in the last days , saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
KJV
So I guess this is saying that the last days were in the past?