ARE ALL BELIEVERS KINGS AND PRIESTS WHEN RESURRECTED ?

[Dan Perez]

Yes, good find. Israel is called to be a kingdom of priests. That does not say they will be kingpriests.

AND what is the DIFFERENCE if the HOLY SPIRIT decides to SAY , KINGS and PRIESTS ,

OR kingpriests ?

dan p

 

[Dan Perez]

AND what is the DIFFERENCE if the HOLY SPIRIT decides to SAY , KINGS and PRIESTS ,

OR kingpriests ?

dan p

All should remember that as we the BODY OF CHRIST ARE// ESTE , in the Greek PRESENT TENSE means it is CONTINUOUS , ONE IN CHRIST JESUS , and Christ Jesus is WHO , BUT the HIGH PREIST of Melchisedec forever .

dan p

 

[Marilyn C]

AND what is the DIFFERENCE if the HOLY SPIRIT decides to SAY , KINGS and PRIESTS ,

OR kingpriests ?

dan p

I would say that we need all of the scriptures relating to that topic to see what is meant. For example you rightly said that Jesus is of (the order of) Melchizedek and we know that is a Kingpriest. Thus we His body are also kingpriests, kings and priests in one office.

Israel are kings and priests but in two offices.

Was that what you meant?

 

[Dan Perez]

I would say that we need all of the scriptures relating to that topic to see what is meant. For example you rightly said that Jesus is of (the order of) Melchizedek and we know that is a Kingpriest. Thus we His body are also kingpriests, kings and priests in one office.

Israel are kings and priests but in two offices.

Was that what you meant?

In Heb 5:in verse 6 a priest for ever .

In Heb 5:10 , called a HIGH PRIEST ..

In Rev 1:6 the 12 apostles will be kings and priest judging Israel in the MILLENNIAL KINGDOM for a thousand years .

In Matt 19:27-29 , and looks that there position has been up graded , when reading Rev 1:6 .

dan p

 

[Marilyn C]

In Heb 5:in verse 6 a priest for ever .

In Heb 5:10 , called a HIGH PRIEST ..

In Rev 1:6 the 12 apostles will be kings and priest judging Israel in the MILLENNIAL KINGDOM for a thousand years .

In Matt 19:27-29 , and looks that there position has been up graded , when reading Rev 1:6 .

dan p

However, if we look at Rev. 21: 14 we see that is the fulfillment of Matt. 19: 27 - 29 - rulers over Israel, (not priests as well).

 

[readywriter]

It should for any bible student to believe that the BODY OF CHRIST is a NATION , when Paul says that we are a NEW CREATION and when in 1 Cor 12:15--17 we are Christs , EYES , EARS , SENSE 0F HEARING and SENSE OF HEARING and his FEET .

dan p

Hello @Dan Perez.

1 Cor.12:15-17 is not referring to the Body of Christ: for at the time of writing the truth concerning 'the church which is His Body, the fulness of Him that filleth all in all' , was still 'hid in God'.

1 Cor.12:15-17 is using the illustration of the human body to illustrate and explain the distribution of spiritual gifts within the church at Corinth.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Matt5]

Take a look at these verses from Matthew 25:

Matthew 25:20 “So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, ‘Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.’
Matthew 25:21 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things.
Enter into the joy of your lord.’
Matthew 25:22 He also who had received two talents came and said, ‘Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.’
Matthew 25:23 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things.
Enter into the joy of your lord.’

 

[Marilyn C]

Take a look at these verses from Matthew 25:

Matthew 25:20 “So he who had received five talents came and brought five other talents, saying, ‘Lord, you delivered to me five talents; look, I have gained five more talents besides them.’
Matthew 25:21 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you were faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things.
Enter into the joy of your lord.’
Matthew 25:22 He also who had received two talents came and said, ‘Lord, you delivered to me two talents; look, I have gained two more talents besides them.’
Matthew 25:23 His lord said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant; you have been faithful over a few things, I will make you ruler over many things.
Enter into the joy of your lord.’

Jesus said that to the people of Israel regarding their future in the millennium. Some will be appointed over many things. There will be a great need in the millennium after the great earthquake & Armageddon, for order to be established.

 

[Dan Perez]

Hello @Dan Perez.

1 Cor.12:15-17 is not referring to the Body of Christ: for at the time of writing the truth concerning 'the church which is His Body, the fulness of Him that filleth all in all' , was still 'hid in God'.

1 Cor.12:15-17 is using the illustration of the human body to illustrate and explain the distribution of spiritual gifts within the church at Corinth.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

You are saying that 1 Cor 12:13 by one SPIRIT we were all PLACED INTO ONE BODY !!

In 1 Cor 2:16 Paul writes !!

#1 WE // HEMEIS is a PERSONAL POSSESSEIVE PRONOUN , in the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the PLURAL .

#2 HAVE // ECHO in the Greek PRESENT TENSE , ACTIVE VOICE , INDICATIVE MOOD , in the PLURAL

#3 THE MIND // NOUS , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

#4 OF CHRIST // CHRISTOS , in the Greek GNITIVE CASE , SINGULAR


Christ is NOT HOLDING back any things IF all do what 2 Tim 2:15 says to do !!

dan p

 

[Matt5]

Jesus said that to the people of Israel regarding their future in the millennium. Some will be appointed over many things. There will be a great need in the millennium after the great earthquake & Armageddon, for order to be established.

We know it's talking about the harvests. When do the harvests come to Israel?

Here is an example of a harvest:

Isaiah 17 - The obliteration of Damascus
Isaiah 17:5 It shall be as when the harvester gathers the grain,
And reaps the heads with his arm;

If a harvest comes to Damascus, does that sound like Israel?

There are almost always going to be some servants of Jesus amongst the weeds. They need to get out of the way. Lazy ones won't.

 

[readywriter]

You are saying that 1 Cor 12:13 by one SPIRIT we were all PLACED INTO ONE BODY !!

In 1 Cor 2:16 Paul writes !!

#1 WE // HEMEIS is a PERSONAL POSSESSEIVE PRONOUN , in the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the PLURAL .

#2 HAVE // ECHO in the Greek PRESENT TENSE , ACTIVE VOICE , INDICATIVE MOOD , in the PLURAL

#3 THE MIND // NOUS , in the ACCUSATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR

#4 OF CHRIST // CHRISTOS , in the Greek GNITIVE CASE , SINGULAR


Christ is NOT HOLDING back any things IF all do what 2 Tim 2:15 says to do !!

dan p

Hello @Dan Perez,

In Ephesians 3:9 and Colossians 1:26, we are told that the truth revealed to the Apostle Paul concerning the church which is the Body of Christ was hid in God since the world began, hidden from ages and generations until it's unveiling by Paul in the letters written from prison. So what you referred to 1 Corinthians is not concerning the Church which is the Body of Christ.

Also, If you compare 1 Corinthians 12:15-17 with Ephesians, you will see that there are major differences in description: the body there is described as a joint body, with Christ as it's head. That is not the case in 1 Corinthians 12:15-17.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Dan Perez]

Hello @Dan Perez,

In Ephesians 3:9 and Colossians 1:26, we are told that the truth revealed to the Apostle Paul concerning the church which is the Body of Christ was hid in God since the world began, hidden from ages and generations until it's unveiling by Paul in the letters written from prison. So what you referred to 1 Corinthians is not concerning the Church which is the Body of Christ.

Also, If you compare 1 Corinthians 12:15-17 with Ephesians, you will see that there are major differences in description: the body there is described as a joint body, with Christ as it's head. That is not the case in 1 Corinthians 12:15-17.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chis

Hello @Dan Perez,

In Ephesians 3:9 and Colossians 1:26, we are told that the truth revealed to the Apostle Paul concerning the church which is the Body of Christ was hid in God since the world began, hidden from ages and generations until it's unveiling by Paul in the letters written from prison. So what you referred to 1 Corinthians is not concerning the Church which is the Body of Christ.

Also, If you compare 1 Corinthians 12:15-17 with Ephesians, you will see that there are major differences in description: the body there is described as a joint body, with Christ as it's head. That is not the case in 1 Corinthians 12:15-17.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

It will help me to understand , if you believe that 1 Cor 12:15-17 is NOT written to the BODY OF CHRIST ?

Your thoughts on Rom 1:1 ?

dan p

 

[readywriter]

It will help me to understand , if you believe that 1 Cor 12:15-17 is NOT written to the BODY OF CHRIST ?

Your thoughts on Rom 1:1 ?

dan p

'All Scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable:-
.. for doctrine,
.... for reproof,
...... for correction,
........ for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect,
throughly furnished unto all good works.'
(2Tim. 3:16-17)

Hello @Dan Perez,

All scripture is FOR the members of that calling, but ALL is not ABOUT that calling. 1 Cor:15-17 is not ABOUT the church which is the Body of Christ.

'Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ,
called to be an apostle,
separated unto the gospel of God,
(Which He had promised afore
by His prophets in the holy scriptures,)'
(Rom 1:1-2)

* Romans again is FOR that calling, but not ABOUT that calling.

* Paul was separated unto the gospel of God, which was the subject of His prophets in the Scriptures. The truth concerning the Body of Christ was NOT the subject of the O.T, Scriptures, being 'hid in God' since the world began (Eph. 1:9 & Col. 1:26).

* The risen Christ told Paul that He would appear unto him again (Acts 26:16), and He did. For a dispensation was given unto Paul to preach 'the gospel of the grace of God' (Acts 20:24). The Truth concerning 'The Mystery' (Acts 3:1-2 & 6-11) was revealed to Paul following the departure of Israel into the blindness of unbelief in Acts 28, concerning the church which is the Body of Christ, which He made known as 'The Lord's Prisoner' in Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Dan Perez]

'All Scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable:-
.. for doctrine,
.... for reproof,
...... for correction,
........ for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect,
throughly furnished unto all good works.'
(2Tim. 3:16-17)

Hello @Dan Perez,

All scripture is FOR the members of that calling, but ALL is not ABOUT that calling. 1 Cor:15-17 is not ABOUT the church which is the Body of Christ.

'Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ,
called to be an apostle,
separated unto the gospel of God,
(Which He had promised afore
by His prophets in the holy scriptures,)'
(Rom 1:1-2)

* Romans again is FOR that calling, but not ABOUT that calling.

* Paul was separated unto the gospel of God, which was the subject of His prophets in the Scriptures. The truth concerning the Body of Christ was NOT the subject of the O.T, Scriptures, being 'hid in God' since the world began (Eph. 1:9 & Col. 1:26).

* The risen Christ told Paul that He would appear unto him again (Acts 26:16), and He did. For a dispensation was given unto Paul to preach 'the gospel of the grace of God' (Acts 20:24). The Truth concerning 'The Mystery' (Acts 3:1-2 & 6-11) was revealed to Paul following the departure of Israel into the blindness of unbelief in Acts 28, concerning the church which is the Body of Christ, which He made known as 'The Lord's Prisoner' in Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Rom 1:1 is just one of the MOST POWERFUL verse that proves when Paul's message was given and when it STOPPED

Paul was a called apostle , HAVING BEEN SEPARATED // APHORIZO and th Greek aphorizo is in the Greek PERFECTN TENSE and that means Paul was LIMITED , SEPARATED and BOUNDARIES were set From Paul's calling in Rom 1:1 to his death in prison .

dan p

 

[readywriter]

@Marlyn C, @Dan Perez, @Matt5, Forum staff. Administrators & all who take part:-

'The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ
be with your spirit.'
(Php 4:23)

'Seasons Greetings'

Love in Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Marilyn C]

@Marlyn C, @Dan Perez, @Matt5, Forum staff. Administrators & all who take part:-

'The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ
be with your spirit.'
(Php 4:23)

'Seasons Greetings'

Love in Christ Jesus
Chris

Thank you Chris, and may you and your family have a happy time together remembering the Lord`s birth.

 

[Dan Perez]

Hi Dan,

Actually, the word in Rev. 5: 10 `epi ` the earth, is the Greek word `epi,` which can be `over or on. ` Thus, we need more scriptures to show where the Body of Christ will rule from.

THE BODY OF CHRIST`S INHERITANCE IS IN HEAVEN.

Our inheritance, our hope, our place, our citizenship, all of which are IN HEAVEN.

`...to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you.` (1 Peter 1: 4 )

` ...because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of truth..`(Col. 1: 5)

` ...and raised us up together and made to sit in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus.`(Eph. 2: 6)

` For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly await for the saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.` (Phil. 3: 20)

(New King James)

And 1 Cor 6:2 and 3 are not real , where the B O C will Govern the Universe ?

dan p

 

[Marilyn C]

And 1 Cor 6:2 and 3 are not real , where the B O C will Govern the Universe ?

dan p

I agree that we will govern the Universe.

 

[Dan Perez]

'All Scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable:-
.. for doctrine,
.... for reproof,
...... for correction,
........ for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect,
throughly furnished unto all good works.'
(2Tim. 3:16-17)

Hello @Dan Perez,

All scripture is FOR the members of that calling, but ALL is not ABOUT that calling. 1 Cor:15-17 is not ABOUT the church which is the Body of Christ.

'Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ,
called to be an apostle,
separated unto the gospel of God,
(Which He had promised afore
by His prophets in the holy scriptures,)'
(Rom 1:1-2)

* Romans again is FOR that calling, but not ABOUT that calling.

* Paul was separated unto the gospel of God, which was the subject of His prophets in the Scriptures. The truth concerning the Body of Christ was NOT the subject of the O.T, Scriptures, being 'hid in God' since the world began (Eph. 1:9 & Col. 1:26).

* The risen Christ told Paul that He would appear unto him again (Acts 26:16), and He did. For a dispensation was given unto Paul to preach 'the gospel of the grace of God' (Acts 20:24). The Truth concerning 'The Mystery' (Acts 3:1-2 & 6-11) was revealed to Paul following the departure of Israel into the blindness of unbelief in Acts 28, concerning the church which is the Body of Christ, which He made known as 'The Lord's Prisoner' in Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

All that read Rom 16:25 Paul is showing all , that the MYSTERY was first written , BEFORE Col 1:26 !!

I believe that the B O C BEGAN in Acts 9:15 , your thoughts , here ?

dan p

 

[readywriter]

All that read Rom 16:25 Paul is showing all , that the MYSTERY was first written , BEFORE Col 1:26 !!
I believe that the B O C BEGAN in Acts 9:15 , your thoughts , here ?
dan p

'Now to Him that is of power to stablish you
according to my gospel,
and the preaching of Jesus Christ,
according to the revelation of the mystery,
which was kept secret since the world began,
But now is made manifest,
and by the scriptures of the prophets,
according to the commandment of the everlasting God,
made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:'
(Rom 16:25-26)

Hello @Dan Perez,

Knowledge of 'The Mystery of Christ', was made known to the Apostles and Prophets of the New Testament, including Paul, it was the subject of the Old Testament Prophets, and not a secret to the New Testament writers. Whereas, 'The Mystery', which was revealed to Paul only, was not the subject of the Old Testament prophets, and not known to the writers of the New Testament, including Paul until after Acts 28. He made it known in the epistles written from prison, in the epistles to the Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians, 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon.

If you look at Acts 20:17-38, and Paul's meeting with the Ephesian elders on his journey into bonds and imprisonment (v.v., 20-23), you will see that Paul tells them that he had not failed to make known to them 'all the counsel of God' that he himself had received, and names what it was that he had preached to them (v.v.. 24-28): and the truth concerning, 'The Mystery', and the church which is the Body of Christ is not included. So he himself had not yet received it, otherwise he would not have told them that he had given them all the counsel of God, for it would not have been true.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris