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Isn’t religion silly?
It says do this or that,and then your good.Paul even called it the “elemental spirits” of the world”.Talking about externals.And the ceremonial laws.


Colossians 2:20 If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— 21 “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”


He said they look pretty cool to the flesh,that loves religion,yet externals have no power.After all,how can asceticism,stop sin.One can be a basket making monk,and be loaded with lust!:priest:

Colossians 2:23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.

Needless to say,Sabbath keeping,and laws,were nailed to the cross.And notice the next verse.Seems like the devil is disarmed,when he cant use the law,to accuse us Chrisitians.

Colossians 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.

Paul also used similar phraseology in Galatians four,while clearly talking about the law.

Galatians 4:9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more?

In a nutshell,this thread is for us rebels that want to walk in His power,not the flesh,under the worlds crude notions,of self abasement,and false humility,which leads to pride.

Lets hear it friends, we want grace, not religion!:clap:

This is a petition,to say no walking in the flesh,under the law.

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We dont want our own righteousness that comes from a self congratulatory system,like the pharisees.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—
 
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Galatians 4:9 </SPAN>But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more?
Beware the Circumcision and the yeast of the Pharisees :thumbsup:

Galatian 4:25 For the Hagar, Mount/oroV <3735 Sinai is in the Arabia is together-elemental/su-stoicei <4960> (5719) yet to the now Jurusalem in servitude with the offsprings of Her.

2 Peter 3:12 Toward seeming/expecting and hastening the Parousia of the God, Day, thru which heavens being fired shall be being dissolved and elements/stoiceia <4747> burning being melted. [Revelation 18:12-]

Reve 18:11 And the merchants of the land are lamenting and are mourning over Her, because no one is not still buying their cargo
12 cargo of gold, and of silver, and of precious stone, and of pearl, and of fine linen, and of purple, and of silk, and of scarlet, and every citron wood, and every ivory vessel, and every precious vessel out of wood, and of brass, and of iron, and of marble
 
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Beware the Circumcision and the yeast of the Pharisees :thumbsup:

Galatian 4:25 For the Hagar, Mount/oroV <3735 Sinai is in the Arabia is together-elemental/su-stoicei <4960> (5719) yet to the now Jurusalem in servitude with the offsprings of Her.

2 Peter 3:12 Toward seeming/expecting and hastening the Parousia of the God, Day, thru which heavens being fired shall be being dissolved and elements/stoiceia <4747> burning being melted. [Revelation 18:12-]

Reve 18:11 And the merchants of the land are lamenting and are mourning over Her, because no one is not still buying their cargo
12 cargo of gold, and of silver, and of precious stone, and of pearl, and of fine linen, and of purple, and of silk, and of scarlet, and every citron wood, and every ivory vessel, and every precious vessel out of wood, and of brass, and of iron, and of marble
Amen!
Galatians is my second fav book.
 
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Scripture speaks of religion negatively as well as positively. Don't fall into the modernist trap of pretending "religion" only refers to Pharisaic models. If anyone has faith in Jesus Christ, that person has religion whether he acknowledges it or not.
James 1:26-27 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.​
 
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Scripture speaks of religion negatively as well as positively. Don't fall into the modernist trap of pretending "religion" only refers to Pharisaic models.

I must agree wholeheartedly!
That is entirely an overdone/used attitude in modern day Christianity.
 
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Scripture speaks of religion negatively as well as positively. Don't fall into the modernist trap of pretending "religion" only refers to Pharisaic models. If anyone has faith in Jesus Christ, that person has religion whether he acknowledges it or not.
James 1:26-27 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Yes MrPolo, those scriptures do get over looked.

That's really cool that three different people from different parts of the world are going through the Book of Romans at the same time without any prior knowledge of it happening because that's were I'm reading and meditating right now too.

I do agree with what is being said that we are initially saved by God's grace by no works of ourselves and the New Covenant began on the Day of Pentecost, fulfilling the promise made by Jesus.

The Old Covenant was between God and the Israelites but now we're no longer obligated to its conditions.
 
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The Old Covenant was between God and the Israelites but now we're no longer obligated to its conditions.


The new covenant, the covenant of redemption started in Genesis ch. 3...but I assume you don't hold to reformed theology.
So I'm confused as to your dates of the OC and the NC.
Again perhaps the literal interpretation of the bible comes into play?
I don't know.
 
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The new covenant, the covenant of redemption started in Genesis ch. 3...but I assume you don't hold to reformed theology.
So I'm confused as to your dates of the OC and the NC.
Again perhaps the literal interpretation of the bible comes into play?
I don't know.

Maybe we read different bibles because mine has and Old testament and a New testament.:scratch:
 
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Isn’t religion silly?
It says do this or that,and then your good.Paul even called it the “elemental spirits” of the world”.Talking about externals.And the ceremonial laws.

Colossians 2:20 If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— 21 “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”

He said they look pretty cool to the flesh,that loves religion,yet externals have no power.After all,how can asceticism,stop sin.One can be a basket making monk,and be loaded with lust!:priest:


Hey, you might actually be catching a glimpse of what THE LAW factually exposes. Still wanna throw it away? lol

Colossians 2:23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.

Needless to say,Sabbath keeping,and laws,were nailed to the cross.And notice the next verse.Seems like the devil is disarmed,when he cant use the law,to accuse us Chrisitians.


One might even consider that the LAW will be turned around and used against the DEVIL? Imagine that? Just like HAMAN! Pullin' on the kings ear didn't do much for him in the final analysis.
Colossians 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.

Paul also used similar phraseology in Galatians four,while clearly talking about the law.


Did you really miss the exposing of rulers and authorities part? Where do you think they were found? That's RIGHT...in the flesh/minds of mankind...go figure...even in believers...wow...imagine that? Who woulda thunk it?

In a nutshell,this thread is for us rebels that want to walk in His power,not the flesh,under the worlds crude notions,of self abasement,and false humility,which leads to pride.


Well, there are vessels of dishonor that all men carry that will be a little embarrased in the end. And quite a few believers who didn't figure out who/what they too were carrying to their respective crosses. They'll still get a little pat on the back from our Lord for their service even though they thought it was ONLY THEM.

enjoy the side you're on at the peril of Truthful Disclosures.

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Isn&#8217;t religion silly?
It says do this or that,and then your good.Paul even called it the &#8220;elemental spirits&#8221; of the world&#8221;.Talking about externals.And the ceremonial laws.


Colossians 2:20 If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations&#8212; 21 &#8220;Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch&#8221;


He said they look pretty cool to the flesh,that loves religion,yet externals have no power.After all,how can asceticism,stop sin.One can be a basket making monk,and be loaded with lust!:priest:

Colossians 2:23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.

Needless to say,Sabbath keeping,and laws,were nailed to the cross.And notice the next verse.Seems like the devil is disarmed,when he cant use the law,to accuse us Chrisitians.

Colossians 2:14 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.

Paul also used similar phraseology in Galatians four,while clearly talking about the law.

Galatians 4:9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more?

In a nutshell,this thread is for us rebels that want to walk in His power,not the flesh,under the worlds crude notions,of self abasement,and false humility,which leads to pride.

Lets hear it friends, we want grace, not religion!:clap:

This is a petition,to say no walking in the flesh,under the law.

Sign up!

We dont want our own righteousness that comes from a self congratulatory system,like the pharisees.

Philippians 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith&#8212;
:thumbsup:

Been banging this drum for a while now here brother. To my surprise, some have joined along...but most just refuse to see anything that contradicts any pre-established beliefs they might have.....('cause that would mean they're wrong, Heaven forbid ;)).
 
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Scripture speaks of religion negatively as well as positively.
...that's not true. Scripture is consistently as anti-religion as you can get, because authentic Christianity (...a life meant to be lived by trusting in Christ's very life as our own) is the very antithesis of religion (...a life lived by trusting in ourselves to live it).


Don't fall into the modernist trap of pretending "religion" only refers to Pharisaic models.
It refers to a lot more than that acutally....namely, the false notion that as Christians we have to try to live for God (...when in reality, the glorious Gospel shows that Christ has come to live for us).

.....ya know, 'cause it's in Him God is well pleased..........ya know, 'cause the effort of flesh profits nothing........ya know, the very reason why he put us to death at the cross in the first place........just some basic little facts of scripture there for people to consider. ;)
 
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If anyone has faith in Jesus Christ, that person has religion whether he acknowledges it or not.
James 1:26-27 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
...just because a verse has the word "religion" in it doesn't mean it's promoting it to Christians. In fact, this verse is promoting something entirely different....Christianity. :)

How else could someone describe Christianity to people of the time but to explain it as "religion that is pure and undefiled before God"? Standard religion (of any kind) can't be "pure" and "undefiled" because it would depend on man (...who is faulted) to ensure so. That's the point. It's talking about the antithesis of man-dependant religion....Christianity (.....something Christ-dependant...dependant on One who Himself is undefiled and pure ;)).

Yep...that veil some might feel getting lifted right about now......that's the Gospel. Enjoy. :prayer:
 
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