A hypothetical situation? Judging? Good sense?

[jeager016]

Since we were discussing "judging" others:
A man who is a convicted of molesting a child was paroled and took up residence
in a middle class neighborhood.
Residents learned of his background was were extremely upset that the molester
was living near children.
Is this "judging" or is this good sense?
After some posts I will reveal what, if anything, happened.
Let me add that a convicted child molester was interviewed some years ago
on a t-v talk show and he said men who molest children NEVER stop if the
opportunity presents itself to repeat the offense.
Thoughts?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

If you were this person, how would you like to be treated?

 

[redblue22]

I don't know what you mean by the word "judge."

 

[jeager016]

If you were this person, how would you like to be treated?

I can't even imagine such a thing so foreign is the thought.
A child molester should be treated as a predator.
Serving time in prison for such a crime is not "rehabilitation".

 

[jeager016]

Judgeing:
form an opinion or conclusion
Basing an opinion or conclusion on behavior works for me.
If an offender of any kind changes then the observable behavior
should reflect that change.
I know some people that were convicted of various offenses
and were punished and never repeated the behavior.
I knew plenty that repeated and were caught and punished more.

 

[redblue22]

so is this having an opinion or good sense?

that doesn't make sense.

 

[rjs330]

It's good sense if you understand child molestors. They cannot be cured or rehabilitated. If given an opportunity they will reoffend. They should be locked up forever if we care at all for children. Doing into others,also applies to us in protecting the innocent. We are not fulfilling the law,of love if we place innocent children in danger.

 

[redblue22]

and you know about child molesters.

 

[rjs330]

Yes as a matter of,fact I do. I work in field that deals with them. I have been taught by professional psychologists who work professionally with them.

 

[Greg J.]

Since we were discussing "judging" others:
A man who is a convicted of molesting a child was paroled and took up residence
in a middle class neighborhood.
Residents learned of his background was were extremely upset that the molester
was living near children.
Is this "judging" or is this good sense?
After some posts I will reveal what, if anything, happened.
Let me add that a convicted child molester was interviewed some years ago
on a t-v talk show and he said men who molest children NEVER stop if the
opportunity presents itself to repeat the offense.
Thoughts?

The judging of others that is a sin comes from a judgmental heart. It is when someone sees himself or his opinion as superior to others'. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with evaluating a situation and acting wisely.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I can't even imagine such a thing so foreign is the thought.

Jesus put himself in the place of all sinners, it's fine if you cannot, I'm not Jesus and neither are you.

 

[JoeP222w]

Since we were discussing "judging" others:
A man who is a convicted of molesting a child was paroled and took up residence
in a middle class neighborhood.
Residents learned of his background was were extremely upset that the molester
was living near children.
Is this "judging" or is this good sense?
After some posts I will reveal what, if anything, happened.
Let me add that a convicted child molester was interviewed some years ago
on a t-v talk show and he said men who molest children NEVER stop if the
opportunity presents itself to repeat the offense.
Thoughts?

The word of God allows judgment, in the sense of comparing any given situation we face in life, for discernment in the light of God's truth in the Bible.

However, we are not to judge hypocritically. For example, if a person got drunk every night and then went around telling everyone that drinking is a sin, that person is clearly "judging" hypocritically. That form of "judging" is sin.

Conversely, if someone does not drink alcohol at all, nor gets drunk, and then warns people that getting drunk is a sin against God, that is a fair judgment and is not sinful "judging", because it is not hypocrisy.

 

[JoeP222w]

If you were this person, how would you like to be treated?

How a person is treated is not the determining factor for God's morality.

 

[JoeP222w]

They cannot be cured or rehabilitated. If given an opportunity they will reoffend.

That is not the nature of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Christ, and Christ alone, can cure or rehabilitate the most vile sinner, and by His grace alone, they will not reoffend.

If you do not believe that the gospel of Jesus Christ can free someone from their bondage to sin, than I don't know that you have come to understand the gospel of grace.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

How a person is treated is not the determining factor for God's morality.

That's not what Jesus said (Matthew 5:43-45, Matthew 22:37-40, Mark 12:30-31, Luke 10:27) Nor Paul, (Romans 13:8-10) Nor Moses (Leviticus 19:18)

Treat the man the way you would want to be treated if you were in the same situation.

 

[JoeP222w]

That's not what Jesus said (Matthew 5:43-45, Matthew 22:37-40, Mark 12:30-31, Luke 10:27) Nor Paul, (Romans 13:8-10) Nor Moses (Leviticus 19:18)

Treat the man the way you would want to be treated if you were in the same situation.

Sorry, I was not very clear in my point. My point was that God's morality is not based on feelings.

 

[redblue22]

If one doesn't want to judge, or if one judges another more important, one doesn't get into this argument.

No matter what the answer, won't you go on judging anyway?

Some hearts thirst to prove they are more important than others they deem inferior.

It is easy to hear. Usually one says to oneself, I am more attractive, I am smarter, and I am morally better; I am more valuable. The insults are even more clear; one says the others are ugly, bad, or stupid.

 

[rjs330]

That is not the nature of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Christ, and Christ alone, can cure or rehabilitate the most vile sinner, and by His grace alone, they will not reoffend.

If you do not believe that the gospel of Jesus Christ can free someone from their bondage to sin, than I don't know that you have come to understand the gospel of grace.

I wasn't talking about the grace of Christ in these matters. I was talking,strictly about the offenders at large. Of course Jesus can transform anyone. He has transformed murderers, homosexuals, adulterers, thieves and just generally broken people. So yes Jesus can transform pedophiles. I thought the OP was just speaking about pedophiles in general not those transformed by Christ.

 

[rjs330]

That's not what Jesus said (Matthew 5:43-45, Matthew 22:37-40, Mark 12:30-31, Luke 10:27) Nor Paul, (Romans 13:8-10) Nor Moses (Leviticus 19:18)

Treat the man the way you would want to be treated if you were in the same situation.

So if you are bound to that thought, then would you allow a convicted pedophile to babysit your daughter or son?

 

[jeager016]

and you know about child molesters.

I DO!
I've arrested child molesters.
Perhaps you didn't read my post where I told of a repeat offender
child molester who proclaimed he could not stop.
He said in was innate in him and he'd best be locked up.

So I locked him up. The judge gave him 40 years to life!
No doubt he died in prison. Likely other prisoners made his life
a living hell. Even criminals have kids ya know.

Can sex predators be reformed?

Rehab program has little participation, few success stories
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/uniontrib/20060522/news_1n22predator.html

If anyone doubts the likelihood "rehabilitation" of such persons please
do some research.