666

[Veni]

Numbers (0-9) 10 symbols
Alphabet (A-Z) 26 symbols

Total 36 symbols

Add all the numbers from 1 to 36 you get 666.

The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

(Alphabet & number speak to men)

 

[Douggg]

Numbers (0-9) 10 symbols
Alphabet (A-Z) 26 symbols

Total 36 symbols

Add all the numbers from 1 to 36 you get 666.

The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

(Alphabet & number speak to men)

Welcome to the forum, Veni.

Well, you are going to have to come up with a name to solve the question. The 666 is the number of a man's name.

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I personally don't claim to know what it is at this point in time..

 

[Veni]

Education is the mark of the beast.

 

[daq]

Welcome to the forum, Veni.

Well, you are going to have to come up with a name to solve the question. The 666 is the number of a man's name.

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I personally don't claim to know what it is at this point in time..

Revelation 13:18 T/R
18 ωδε η σοφια εστιν ο εχων τον νουν ψηφισατω τον αριθμον του θηριου αριθμος γαρ ανθρωπου εστι και ο αριθμος αυτου χξς

Revelation 13:18 N/A-W/H
18 ωδε η σοφια εστιν ο εχων νουν ψηφισατω τον αριθμον του θηριου αριθμος γαρ ανθρωπου εστιν και ο αριθμος αυτου εξακοσιοι εξηκοντα εξ

Is then the famous phrase, "the Son of man", better translated as "the Son of a man"???
(Of course not).

What is the natural man?
Consider the lily-like flowers of the field, (שושני, Matthew 6:28-30).
All flesh is as grass, Isaiah 40:6-8, James 1:10-12, 1 Peter 1:25-26.

 

[RandyPNW]

Numbers (0-9) 10 symbols
Alphabet (A-Z) 26 symbols

Total 36 symbols

Add all the numbers from 1 to 36 you get 666.

The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

(Alphabet & number speak to men)

Here are some notes I jotted down not too long ago....

There are many speculations, almost as old as the Bible text itself, regarding the meaning of 666 or to whom it is referencing. The Catholic Church states that Irenaeus (130 - 202 A.D.), an early church "father," wrote about whom this number might reference. He stated that the Greek word "Lateinos," when given their corresponding Greek values and added up (30 + 1 + 330 + 5 + 10 + 50 + 70 + 200), equals 666. The word itself means "Latin man."
(From Bible Study Symbolism of 666)

Lateinos is perhaps the equivalent of Latino. That is, the Antichrist will be Latin, or Roman.

King Lateinos was the founder of Rome and the Roman Empire. In the Greek, every letter has a numerical value. The numerical value for “Lateinos” is 666. Therefore, the beast is clearly identified as the Roman Empire, as the number 666 identifies the founder of the Roman Empire–Lateinos.

What is the Number of the Beast? – Church of the Eternal God

I don't believe any of the Church Fathers believed Nero was 666 or the Antichrist.

 

[Douggg]

Revelation 13:18 T/R
18 ωδε η σοφια εστιν ο εχων τον νουν ψηφισατω τον αριθμον του θηριου αριθμος γαρ ανθρωπου εστι και ο αριθμος αυτου χξς

Revelation 13:18 N/A-W/H
18 ωδε η σοφια εστιν ο εχων νουν ψηφισατω τον αριθμον του θηριου αριθμος γαρ ανθρωπου εστιν και ο αριθμος αυτου εξακοσιοι εξηκοντα εξ

Is then the famous phrase, "the Son of man", better translated as "the Son of a man"???
(Of course not).

What is the natural man?
Consider the lily-like flowers of the field, (שושני, Matthew 6:28-30).
All flesh is as grass, Isaiah 40:6-8, James 1:10-12, 1 Peter 1:25-26.

It all comes down to an single individual man.

his name
the number of his name
the mark of his name (Revelation 14:11)

 

[daq]

It all comes down to an single individual man.

his name
the number of his name
the mark of his name (Revelation 14:11)

Why do you suppose I posted what I did about the Son of man? That phrase is based on Hebrew. In the phrase ben adam the word adam can mean either a single man, Adam, or it can mean mankind as spoken of in the sense of a mass noun, (singular). If the author of the Apokalypse speaks of mankind as a mass noun it still makes just as much sense as your proposal: therefore your assertion is not so settled as you may suppose.

Revelation 13:18 KJV
18 Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six.

Revelation 13:18 KJV− (without the indefinite article: mankind as a mass noun)
18 Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six.

Both ways of reading the text make just as much sense. There is a longstanding debate over this question, concerning this passage, which is not settled just because one side says so.

 

[Douggg]

Why do you suppose I posted what I did about the Son of man? That phrase is based on Hebrew. In the phrase ben adam the word adam can mean either a single man, Adam, or it can mean mankind as spoken of in the sense of a mass noun, (singular). If the author of the Apokalypse speaks of mankind as a mass noun it still makes just as much sense as your proposal: therefore your assertion is not so settled as you may suppose.

But because the mark is "the mark of his name"in Revelation 14:11 - it indicates one specific individual. To be plural, the text would have to say "the mark of their name". So it is not the number of man in the mass sense. But an individual man.

his name
the number of his name
the mark of his name

 

[honey badger]

Education is the mark of the beast.

the mark of the beast speaks to a perception, as in an identity by way of reasoning between two fruits of a tree ...

 

[Douggg]

the mark of the beast speaks to a perception, as in an identity by way of reasoning between two fruits of a tree ...

The mark of the beast will be some sort of symbol associated with the beast's name. For example, a "Z" for Zorro. Or a lightning bolt for Zeus. Or a Swastika for Hitler.

Revelation 13:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

 

[Sabertooth]

Add all the numbers from 1 to 36 you get 666.

That is true if you add up all of the numbers on a roulette wheel, too...!

Well, you are going to have to come up with a name to solve the question. The 666 is the number of a man's name.

Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I personally don't claim to know what it is at this point in time..

The number of his name is distinct from his name spelled out. They are two different forms of the mark of the Beast.

Observations About The Mark Of The Beast...

Subtle details about the Mark of the Beast, as found in Rev.13:16-18

www.christianforums.com

 

[daq]

But because the mark is "the mark of his name"in Revelation 14:11 - it indicates one specific individual. To be plural, the text would have to say "the mark of their name". So it is not the number of man in the mass sense. But an individual man.

the name
the number of his name
the mark of his name

Sin is personified, and evil is personified, just as "the natural man", (which I already also mentioned), is personified. The passage you reference need not be plural, as you suggest, if it is speaking of the natural man or the nature of the natural man. The "old man" nature is singular, not plural, and speaks to the condition of all mankind before entering into the faith. Why singular? Because all mankind, before entering into the faith, sooner or later acquires "the spirit of the world" along life's way, (life outside Meshiah).

The spirit of the world is spoken of as one spirit, (1 Cor 2:10-12), but spoken of also in terms of many antichrists, who went out from among the faithful because they were "not of us". This is no doubt likewise the prince of the power of the air, spoken of by Paul in Eph 2:1-3, judging by the context surrounding that phrase, the same spirit of the world which is the spirit that now works in the sons of disobedience: among whom also we all had our conversation in times past, in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

The mark of his name in Rev 14:11 is no different than what is said in chapter thirteen: his name may indeed be speaking of the natural man personification which applies to all mankind. The natural mind of the natural man cannot please Elohim because it is enmity against Elohim, (Rom 8:5-8), and is therefore surely "antichrist".

 

[Douggg]

The number of his name is distinct from his name spelled out.

I agree.

They are two different forms of the mark of the Beast.

I don't think the 666 number is a form of the mark of the Beast. But instead the symbol, whatever that is, is the mark of the Beast.

So to buy or sell, the law enacted by the false prophet, everyone will be required to be imprinted with one of these three....
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his name (the beast's name)
the 666 number of the beast's name.
the mark (the symbol) of the beast's name.

 

[Douggg]

Sin is personified, and evil is personified, just as "the natural man", (which I already also mentioned), is personified. The passage you reference need not be plural, as you suggest, if it is speaking of the natural man or the nature of the natural man. The "old man" nature is singular, not plural, and speaks to the condition of all mankind before entering into the faith. Why singular? Because all mankind, before entering into the faith, sooner or later acquires "the spirit of the world" along life's way, (life outside Meshiah).

The spirit of the world is spoken of as one spirit, (1 Cor 2:10-12), but spoken of also in terms of many antichrists, who went out from among the faithful because they were "not of us". This is no doubt likewise the prince of the power of the air, spoken of by Paul in Eph 2:1-3, judging by the context surrounding that phrase, the same spirit of the world which is the spirit that now works in the sons of disobedience: among whom also we all had our conversation in times past, in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

The mark of his name in Rev 14:11 is no different than what is said in chapter thirteen: his name may indeed be speaking of the natural man personification which applies to all mankind. The natural mind of the natural man cannot please Elohim because it is enmity against Elohim, (Rom 8:5-8), and is therefore surely "antichrist".

You are overlooking this...

16 And he [the false prophet] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The law to be enacted by the false prophet will require a literal visible imprinted in the right hand or in the forehead, one of the following to buy or sell.

his name (the beast's name)
the 666 number of the beast's name.
the mark (the symbol) of the beast's name.

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So what is the name of the beast, daq ?

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't think the 666 number is a form of the mark of the Beast. But instead the symbol, whatever that is, is the mark of the Beast.

It appears that the "number" form will be as distinct from the "logo" form as it is from his name spelled out. And that unbelievers will not recognize the number form as a number; only s/he who has understanding (from the Holy Spirit [John 14:26]).

 

[Douggg]

I wrote that the mark of the beast would be visible. I base that on this verse...

Revelaton 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

[Douggg]

It appears that the "number" form will be as distinct from the "logo" form as it is from his name spelled out. And that unbelievers will not recognize the number form as a number; only s/he who has understanding (from the Holy Spirit [John 14:26]).

I am not getting it. "666" is a three digit number of three six's. Why would someone not see "666" as a number ?

 

[Sabertooth]

I am not getting it. "666" is a three digit number of three six's. Why would someone not see "666" as a number ?

It needs to be a quantitative 600 + 60 + 6. My blog post shows other possible ways that that quantity can be written.
Verse 18 says that only a person with (God's) wisdom will be able to discern its number quality.

I believe that Leonardo Da Vinci kept his notes in reverse text (that could be read correctly in a mirror).
And that cipher held up...!

Mirror writing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Douggg]

It needs to be a quantitative 600 + 60 + 6. My blog post shows other possible ways that that quantity can be written.
Verse 18 says that only a person with (God's) wisdom will be able to discern its number quality.

I believe that Leonardo Da Vinci kept his notes in reverse text (that could be read correctly in a mirror).
And that cipher held up...!

Mirror writing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The 666 is the number of the beast's name. So while there will be a combination of numbers that total 666, it can be only one combination of numbers - specific to the beast's name.

So, if a person suspects someone to be the beast - one way to check the possibility is to add the letter-number equivalents of the person's name to see if it adds to 666. One place to do that is Gematria Calculator . This is assuming the letter-number approach. It may be something else, like the person's seat in a parliment (as some have speculated).

What will be displayed, however, when the law is enacted, on the forehead or hand will likey be the total , the singular displayed number of - 666. Time will tell the closer that day becomes.

We should pray that God gives us the wisdom to figure out the 666 number of the beast's name.

 

[Sabertooth]

What will be displayed, however, when the law is enacted, on the forehead or hand will likey be the total , the singular displayed number of - 666.

A person without spiritual wisdom would be able to see that. Verse 18 says that will not be the case.
Of course, getting someone's name fully spelled out on right hand or forehead will be a no-brainer...!