We got ourselves a good ol' fashion terrorist attack in Colorado

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Well if they would just stop the baby killing this would stop.

I know, right? I'm reminded of women who don't have the decency to hide their curves and cover their ankles and then have the gall to blame men for raping them. All those harlots have to do is act decently and these crimes could be prevented.
 
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I'm just using everyone's logic here. If PP wasn't in the business of killing babies they wouldn't be a target. Just sayin

I understand the logic you're using, but I recognize it from Islamic terrorists, not Catholics.
 
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I'm just using everyone's logic here. If PP wasn't in the business of killing babies they wouldn't be a target. Just sayin
Neither the Olympics nor gay bars are in the business of killing babies, and they were both targets of a similar terrorist (one who also attacked an abortion provider)
 
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I know, right? I'm reminded of women who don't have the decency to hide their curves and cover their ankles and then have the gall to blame men for raping them. All those harlots have to do is act decently and these crimes could be prevented.
There is nothing indecent about a woman's ankles.
Revealing a woman's ankles is not a cause of rape according to any literature on the subject.
And lady lumps are lovely.
 
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Of course it isn't. Neither is the sale of aborted fetal tissue and organs a cause of shooting sprees. That's my point.
Only crazy people or psychopaths would see this as a cause for shooting sprees.
It would be rather pointless to make any kind of argument to such people, since they are not rational and/or moral anyway. What would be even more pointless would be to make it to anyone else who is not crazy or a psychopath, unless the rhetorical intent was to pretend that somebody has been making such a point.
 
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I'm not going to look them all up. So I'll pick Timothy McVeigh. According to what has been reported he was motivated by Nazi ideology. So he was motivated by something other than the Catholic religion that he was brought up with.
Timothy McVeigh by all appearances was not delusional or mentally ill.
He was a racist, and vengeful against what the government did to the children of Waco.

His acts were examples of pure political evil, much like the acts of many Islamist terrorists, who operate in the same way.
Timothy McVeigh also never acted alone according to his own inner thoughts and eccentricities, but worked with at least one other in that bombing, from what I recall, and was also supported in his ideology by a larger community of people of the same mindset.
That is quite a bit different than the biography of this Colorado gunman.
 
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Only crazy people or psychopaths would see this as a cause for shooting sprees.
It would be rather pointless to make any kind of argument to such people, since they are not rational and/or moral anyway. What would be even more pointless would be to make it to anyone else who is not crazy or a psychopath, unless the rhetorical intent was to pretend that somebody has been making such a point.

We don't have to argue him out of killing people. We can instead mandate psychological profiles for all 1st time gun buyers, require registration of firearms, take pains not to use the sort of rhetoric that incites these people (it was generally known that PP and other abortion providers provided fetal remains to researchers, just as hospitals have with adult remains - there was no need to make a prolonged "gotcha!" series of videos complete with Erie music and blood and guts shots detailing the practice), and provide additional funding to make sure that quality mental health care is available to all persons without regard to their ability to pay. It won't stop every killer, but it will stop some.

I also approve of the movements that exist today that are challenging rape culture, creating a society where men are tought that women are not "asking for it" by attending a certain party or having a few drinks or wearing certain clothes. Yes, most men already knew that. Some did not, and it is important to reach them.
 
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What a surprise. I'm sure the families of the dead will feel much better because you found a culprit that is not the terrorist who shot them.
Do you believe PP should be allowed to continue its intentional acts of lethal violence on unborn babies..?
 
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In a culture that aborts one out of three unborn, people have a right to know what kind of monsters who are involved in the trade of fetal parts.
Americans who feel the need to stifle themselves when it comes to speaking truth to power are AINO, American in name only. They show no respect for their freedoms.
Catholics who feel the need to take the side of the largest abortion provider are likewise CINO.
 
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Only crazy people or psychopaths would see this as a cause for shooting sprees.
Then there are a lot of crazy people and psychopaths, including those on CF who have openly stated things like "violence begs violence" <implied shrug>.
 
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