Transsexuals and Religion

As I was saying said:

Would you? Here it is then...ME.

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Are you saying I can click on you? Not sure I want to do that...

Armoured said:

Yeah Tink, he knows more about the transgender experience than you

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He seems actually rather limited to homosexuality in his experience.

Cute Tink said:

He seems actually rather limited

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Fixed.

I would be remiss if I didn't note that your adjustment does seem to be making it personal

Cute Tink said:

I would be remiss if I didn't note that your adjustment does seem to be making it personal

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Not at all. Hating the sin, not the sinner, as they say.

DaveW-Ohev said:

I do not doubt that someone who is born with a homosexual demon would think they were "born that way." In one sense - they were.

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Right..... Sorry I consider that notation to be asinine.

I see it has the same as homosexuality, As if your born a boy your always a boy, sense if you begin being attracted to other boys then your a homosexual. This is how I see it same goes for girls claiming there boys. Don't know why so many Christians believe that being transgender is alright, Because if you believe its alright you literally are admitting you think God makes mistakes. Which then that just shows you have weak faith.

Rockshe said:

I see it has the same as homosexuality, As if your born a boy your always a boy, sense if you begin being attracted to other boys then your a homosexual. This is how I see it same goes for girls claiming there boys. Don't know why so many Christians believe that being transgender is alright, Because if you believe its alright you literally are admitting you think God makes mistakes. Which then that just shows you have weak faith.

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So, you don't support corrective surgery for, say, children with a harelip?

super animator said:

Right..... Sorry I consider that notation to be asinine.

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I am sure you do. That is the problem when when someone with a secular based mindset is trying to discuss spiritual matters. It does not make any sense.

Rockshe said:

I see it has the same as homosexuality, As if your born a boy your always a boy, sense if you begin being attracted to other boys then your a homosexual. This is how I see it same goes for girls claiming there boys. Don't know why so many Christians believe that being transgender is alright, Because if you believe its alright you literally are admitting you think God makes mistakes. Which then that just shows you have weak faith.

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Hi,

I am transgender. For your consideration of God and I and my situation, it was in 2013, that I decided to be transgendered. That is a lot of time to consider that, since I was born in 1947.

In and about 1952, all the signs of my being the highest form of being transgendered, were all there. In the car, in Midland Michigan, left all alone, I wondered why my parents were on the second floor talking to a doctor about turning me into a girl. That is and was my thoughts being less than 6 years old then. Those are childhood thoughts. I cried. I fell asleep crying in the back of the car. The item was never brought up again.

In 2005, I woke up after quintuple bypass surgery with an anuerism, with a woman's heart and did not know why. (Yes, I know the impossibilities of that, and the lack of evidence as I was given no anti rejection drugs if this was someone else's heart, a female's and not mine.)

That is a huge amount of time, and had my parents been richer it would have been less, is what it took for me to be transexual, (the most severe form of being transgendered), in the way God must have wanted that to happen in my case.

As time passed, I would get person contacts of The God Kind, and it is all verified by The Roman Catholic Church and cleared by more than one mental health professional. Two Psychiatrists and on Ph.D. Psychologist say rather than being mentally ill, it is all real in my case.

I have always wondered why God did this to me. In the Bible in the letter of James, it says roughly, that if you are tough enough God gives you poverty. And it also that those who are not given poverty have much to make up for, but are not hopelessly lost to God, rather they must do things to make their richness, correct with God.

My transgenderism is a form of poverty. I don't get a normal life. And less you think God does not do things to those who are impoverished, read the Magnificat and see what The Holy Spirit had Mary say about the poor being filled with every good thing.

In an approved set of revelations by a Spiritual Director in the Catholic church, I have been given even God The Father's personal voice to hear, once. And that is just one item, there are many many more.

So, I can confirm that to me God made no mistakes, in making me transgendered. He rather than a mistake, Gifted Me With This Condition.

LOVE,

Rockshe said:

I see it has the same as homosexuality, As if your born a boy your always a boy, sense if you begin being attracted to other boys then your a homosexual. This is how I see it same goes for girls claiming there boys.

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You might find it interesting to know that not all male-to-females are attracted to men and not all female-to-males are attracted to women. The idea that it is the same or linked to homosexuality is entirely misguided.

Don't know why so many Christians believe that being transgender is alright, Because if you believe its alright you literally are admitting you think God makes mistakes. Which then that just shows you have weak faith.

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This point keeps coming up, but nobody here is saying God made any mistakes...

Cute Tink said:

You might find it interesting to know that not all male-to-females are attracted to men and not all female-to-males are attracted to women. The idea that it is the same or linked to homosexuality is entirely misguided.



This point keeps coming up, but nobody here is saying God made any mistakes...

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You seen I knew this but it does situations it is still a sin as in cross dressing as stated in the bible it is a sin (on tablet will provides verses later if need be)

katerinah1947 said:

Hi,

I am transgender. For your consideration of God and I and my situation, it was in 2013, that I decided to be transgendered. That is a lot of time to consider that, since I was born in 1947.

In and about 1952, all the signs of my being the highest form of being transgendered, were all there. In the car, in Midland Michigan, left all alone, I wondered why my parents were on the second floor talking to a doctor about turning me into a girl. That is and was my thoughts being less than 6 years old then. Those are childhood thoughts. I cried. I fell asleep crying in the back of the car. The item was never brought up again.

In 2005, I woke up after quintuple bypass surgery with an anuerism, with a woman's heart and did not know why. (Yes, I know the impossibilities of that, and the lack of evidence as I was given no anti rejection drugs if this was someone else's heart, a female's and not mine.)

That is a huge amount of time, and had my parents been richer it would have been less, is what it took for me to be transexual, (the most severe form of being transgendered), in the way God must have wanted that to happen in my case.

As time passed, I would get person contacts of The God Kind, and it is all verified by The Roman Catholic Church and cleared by more than one mental health professional. Two Psychiatrists and on Ph.D. Psychologist say rather than being mentally ill, it is all real in my case.

I have always wondered why God did this to me. In the Bible in the letter of James, it says roughly, that if you are tough enough God gives you poverty. And it also that those who are not given poverty have much to make up for, but are not hopelessly lost to God, rather they must do things to make their richness, correct with God.

My transgenderism is a form of poverty. I don't get a normal life. And less you think God does not do things to those who are impoverished, read the Magnificat and see what The Holy Spirit had Mary say about the poor being filled with every good thing.

In an approved set of revelations by a Spiritual Director in the Catholic church, I have been given even God The Father's personal voice to hear, once. And that is just one item, there are many many more.

So, I can confirm that to me God made no mistakes, in making me transgendered. He rather than a mistake, Gifted Me With This Condition.

LOVE,

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What do you mean by the God Kind? And saying something is certified by the Roman Catholic church. Will not do much for me as I believe many of the beliefs contradict the bible (praying to mary, confessing to priests, the pope probably a few other things) And i know God gives people that are strong enough some struggles as he has given me some but what I can tell your spouse to overcome them obviously other then embrace them.

Armoured said:

So, you don't support corrective surgery for, say, children with a harelip?

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A cut in there lip or whatever is a entirely different story.

Jutta2 said:

In a Tread on transsexuality and the RCC, I imagined as yet-Mormon (I have the bishop wrote a letter, as I asked for the removal of my name from the church records), the question; How religions in general, and Christian religions in particular, see transsexualism? Is it a sin? A free choice? Immoral behavior, and homosexuality equated? Or is it a disease, a "gender identity disorder", which is not curable, and can only be improved by a "Sex chance", as doctors says?
What do you think?

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Religion (given it's human authorship) is often about how people a long time ago reacted to any particular problem.

This makes gives it some inflexibility when it has to sit there and say that the people who wrote down the religion were speaking for God even when later discovery may seem to contradict that point, or situations arise that it didn't think to give clear guidance on.

Cute Tink said:

Are you saying I can click on you? Not sure I want to do that...

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And why not may I ask? I am such a nice guy I have to beat my admirers off to stay on top of the world.

Cute Tink said:

I have yet to see any reliable evidence of demonic activity. I cannot provide evidence that something does not happen.

You provided a story. Without corroborating evidence it is just that: a story.

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Such a limp wristed response. I have yet....did you know that the world does not revolve around you? I haven't seen any destitute children on the streets of India who sell their bodies for sex so they can eat. That proves nothing other than I haven't seen it.

I do know however people who have seen it so it must be true unless I call them all a liar like you do.

Cute Tink said:

Some estimates of intersex place the occurrence at around 1 in 2,000 or so. For the statement at hand we are discussing, I found this stat:

So I'm not sure we can say with any certainty that 98% are XY male or XX female.

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Pedantic posturing.

Cute Tink said:

So no verifiable data. Thanks for responding.

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Yes actually. I am very verifiable. People love me for it. Verifiable; to prove the truth of, as by evidence or testimony. People love my testimony as I am autistic so when I say something happened they know it happened.

Cearbhall said:

Yes, I'm happy with the improvements, and I am grateful to be living in the greatest era in history.

Funny, I've held this opinion since I was a Christian.

You're not understanding what I'm saying, then. I am not suggesting that one person's opinion proves a fact wrong. I am saying that one true counterexample disproves a statement which contradicts that example. For example, if I say that all swans are white, and a black swan swims by, I am wrong. Furthermore, no matter how many white swans go by, I cannot use this as definitive evidence of my claim. If you say that homosexuality is always (and only) caused by a poor relationship with one's mother or father, but this is not true for all individuals who are homosexual, then you are wrong. It may still be a cause, but there are other causes, as well.

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What you mean the greatest era when we murder millions of babies in the womb? if that is greatest I wonder what the worst looks like?

And when was that?

Is that so? Then tell us all what they are.

katerinah1947 said:

Hi,Here are some gay exorcism results.
http://www.details.com/story/gay-exorcism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_exorcism LOVE,

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They are not homosexual exorcism results. They are two examples of homosexual exorcism and NO ONE in their right mind would base any finding on TWO exorcisms, one of which is a Wikipedia effort where anyone can submit anything without evidence.

I have noticed over the years that homosexuals have a tendency to base their claims on one or two examples and then say "there you are. That proves what I said" which it doesn't. All it does is prove you don't have any credible evidence.