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Hi! I remember we used to have a very devoted lutheran member here, I think even his user name was Luther? :) I wonder whether he still goes here! And so I thought it were interesting to know how you other lutherans would describe your relationship (or rather way of commitment, maybe?) to lutheranism. So, here are some questions you might find helpful for answering the main question (or if not then forget about them!). What kind of lutheran church do you go to? How long have you been a member? What do you like about your church, what not? How do you view their doctrine? How important is it to you that you go to a lutheran church specifically? How well do you know the Lutheran Book of Concord? Do you have it, and do you regularly study it?
 

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What kind of lutheran church do you go to?
My Church is called "Lutheran Church of the Good Sheppard" and it is a LCMS Church.

How long have you been a member?
I think its either going on a year or has already passed the year mark, I can't really remember.


What do you like about your church, what not?
I like that it is Liturgical, Confessional, and Sacramental. I do not like that they might occasionally sing a praise and worship song, but I feel better when I realize that the book they get the songs from is so foreign to them that they pretty much stumble through it.


How do you view their doctrine?
Confessional Lutheranism, thus Orthodox.

How important is it to you that you go to a lutheran church specifically?
For me it is very important! as I believe the Lutheran Church contains to the right teachings of the scriptures etc.

How well do you know the Lutheran Book of Concord? Do you have it, and do you regularly study it?
I do not know our confessions as much as I would like, but I do own the Book of Concord.
 
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I am a Confessional Lutheran (LCMS) because I am convinced that the Church of the Augsburg Confession is the most doctrinally correct church according to Scripture, and also a church that faithfully preserves the historical manner of worshipping the Triune God as established by the Apostles and informed by two thousand years of Christian history.

I own a Book of Concord, but most often I use the website bookofconcord.com for reference and study. I am most familiar with the Small Catechism, since I help my children study for their Catechism classes, and I have also read through the Large Catechism and the Augsburg Confession a few times, as well as parts of the other documents. I would like to be more familiar with the BoC than I am.

I have been a Lutheran for about seven years, converting from Baptist/Evangelical. It is very important to me to regularly worship in a Confessional Lutheran church where I can hear God's word of Law preached in its sternness and God's word of Gospel preached in its sweetness, as well as where I can receive in my own body the true Body and Blood of my Lord Jesus Christ given and shed for me for the forgiveness of my sins.
 
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What kind of lutheran church do you go to?
Currently, TAALC (in fellowship with LCMS); I have served as pastor in both church bodies.

How long have you been a member?
I have been Lutheran my entire life, LCMS for 56 years, TAALC 10 years

What do you like about your church, what not?
Liturgy, Scriptural foundation, concern for mission.

How do you view their doctrine?
Doctrinally solid based on Scripture

How important is it to you that you go to a lutheran church specifically?
I have visited many churches over the decades. Lutheran is top priority by far.

How well do you know the Lutheran Book of Concord? Do you have it, and do you regularly study it?
Have it, and have been studying it regularly since 1982. I have taught Confessions classes in seminary.
 
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What kind of lutheran church do you go to?

LCMS



How long have you been a member?

3 years



What do you like about your church, what not?

I like the theology. What I don't like is that the majority of the members are elderly.




How do you view their doctrine?

Sola Scriptura...they are right on. As close to the biblical model of a Church as can be.




How important is it to you that you go to a lutheran church specifically?

Very important. At this point I wouldn't attend anywhere else.



How well do you know the Lutheran Book of Concord? Do you have it, and do you regularly study it?

I have it but mainly I study Luther's Catechism.
 
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What kind of Lutheran church do you go to? I go to a small ELCA congregation, Lutheran Church of the Good Shepherd.

How long have you been a member? I actually am in the process of transferring my membership to Good Shepherd, but I have been in the ELCA for 5+ years.

What do you like about your church, what not? Wonderful sung Mass with a fantastic pianist. Preaching is usually pretty good. Not much by way of adult formation, though.

How do you view their doctrine? Subscribes to Augsburg.

How important is it to you that you go to a Lutheran church specifically? Fairly important.

How well do you know the Lutheran Book of Concord? Very well.

Do you have it, and do you regularly study it? Because I'm a bit old fashioned in my tastes I prefer the old Bente and Dau translation, but I use the Concordia Pocket Edition for daily reading at work.
 
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Interesting, it seems a lot of us study lutheran writings much more then the general lutheran churchgoer! Which is good of course. As for myself, I go to an evangelical-lutheran church (not ELCA, I don't live in the US). I have the book of concord at home but I haven't read most of it and I'm really bad at lutheran theology in general. I should do some more reading, but then it also seems I have a difficult time finding time for all of that while I'd like to spend more time studying the Bible too and praying and going to church and sometimes even writing down my thoughts! That's a lot of other things to do, wow, and that was only the stuff somehow connected to being christian! I'm a bit on the verge whether I like to call myself just christian or lutheran specifically. As opposed to the other main churches here (pentecostal and eastern orthodox) I'm definitely more lutheran, but within the church there are also a lot of people who are much more confessional in their lutheran faith and I can't really make up my opinion on that... Sometimes I think it goes a bit over the top with some people. like it seems they only want to support the lutheran creeds and don't really care about Jesus whose supposed to be the center of it all! But then that's only my impression of course, and maybe it only concerns a very limited amount of people!
 
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"What kind of Lutheran church do you go to?"
I go to St Timothy's ELCA in Omaha, NE. It is typical of a lot of mainline churches in wealthy suburban areas: politically conservative/theologically moderate congregation with liberal-leaning pastors who choose their words carefully.

"How long have you been a member?"
I'm actually not a member, nor was I raised Lutheran. I've been attending since Ash Wednesday 2014. Neither the associate pastor who I'm pretty close to, nor I have much of a clue how I "darkened the door of a Lutheran church" with no prior exposure to Lutheranism.

"What do you like about your church, what not?"
The people are very welcoming. The congregation is very involved with ministering to the community, closely partners with Lutheran Family Services of Nebraska. I like the church's theological focus and message, as well. Sermons are geared toward the saving grace of Jesus Christ, and our need to grow as Christians. I "fled" to this church from a Disciples of Christ church that really got aggressive with its political agenda, and I was really needing a kind of "back to the basics" Christian home. I also have found I really like the Lutheran order of worship, music, and liturgy. My dad was raised Catholic and I grew up with a lot of Catholic friends, so going to mass is not foreign to me and I always enjoyed it more than the services of the CC (DOC).

On the negative side of the ledger, I've always preferred traditional services to contemporary, but the "main" service at St. Timothy's is the contemporary one, drawing twice the number of the traditional service. From what I've read about Lutheran history, it seems like their existing traditional service is very much a "low church" service. I guess if people have the option, and most prefer the contemporary service, I'd like to see some more high church elements added to the traditional service. The other concern I have with the church is more of a potential than current issue: I sense that we're like a family at Thanksgiving - we have a lot of different opinions but for the sake of harmony, we don't talk about stuff we disagree on. I can imagine our pastors praying every morning "Lord, please don't let a gay couple walk in wanting to get married today" - because that sort of thing would split us 50/50 awfully quick.

How do you view their doctrine?
I'd say they're on the conservative side of the ELCA. They still talk about sin and redemption, don't speak in horribly stilted language about God in the name of eliminating all male pronouns, and the pastors teach the gospel in a straightforward, if not vanilla manner.

How important is it to you that you go to a Lutheran church specifically?
I'm a Christian first and foremost. In my 26 years, I've attended the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), where I was baptized, the Evangelical Free Church in my high school and college years, back to the DOC out of college, and into the ELCA about a year and a half ago. I really, really like the history, culture, and teachings of Lutheranism, and could easily see myself spending the rest of my life in this branch of Christianity (let's not kid ourselves, I'm probably going to outlive the ELCA specifically).

How well do you know the Lutheran Book of Concord? Do you have it, and do you regularly study it?
I don't know it very well. I got it earlier this year and I've been chipping away at it for a few months.
 
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I am sorry but the ELCA church is not politically conservative. They are actually considered to be quite liberal.

I'm well aware of the leanings of the national ELCA, and of many ELCA congregations. I was describing my specific congregation, which draws its membership from conservative, upper middle class neighborhoods in Omaha.
 
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I'm well aware of the leanings of the national ELCA, and of many ELCA congregations. I was describing my specific congregation, which draws its membership from conservative, upper middle class neighborhoods in Omaha.

So does your Church believe in allowing abortion, homosexuality, and/or female clergy.
 
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So does your Church believe in allowing abortion, homosexuality, and/or female clergy.

I have never heard or seen the word "abortion" within the walls of the church. Likewise with homosexuality, though the church's marriage policies clearly refer to heterosexual marriage only, and make no provision for same sex weddings. The church does take an affirmative stance on female clergy, but in their 60 year history, they've only called men.

Frankly, I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the people in the pews being generally conservative, and the church at large being on the conservative side of the ELCA.
 
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I have never heard or seen the word "abortion" within the walls of the church. Likewise with homosexuality

Exactly, a conservative church would take a stand on both those issues. If you want to know what a conservative church is visit an LCMS congregation. There you will hear sermons concerning both abominations of abortion and homosexuality.

The owners of this forum have divided WELS, LCMS from the ELCA and labeled them conservative and liberal respectively.

I'm sorry sir but if you are attending an ELCA church you are a member of a liberal denomination.
 
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Exactly, a conservative church would take a stand on both those issues. If you want to know what a conservative church is visit an LCMS congregation. There you will hear sermons concerning both abominations of abortion and homosexuality.

The owners of this forum have divided WELS, LCMS from the ELCA and labeled them conservative and liberal respectively.

I'm sorry sir but if you are attending an ELCA church you are a member of a liberal denomination.
I think your intentionally missing his point all this time and derailing the thread. It wasn't made for debating which lutheran church you believe to be conservative enough to be conservative. ;)
 
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I think your intentionally missing his point all this time and derailing the thread. It wasn't made for debating which lutheran church you believe to be conservative enough to be conservative. ;)

And still we should call apples apples and oranges oranges. I think you are intentionally missing my point. The ELCA is not conservative and he claimed that it is.
 
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And still we should call apples apples and oranges oranges. I think you are intentionally missing my point. The ELCA is not conservative and he claimed that it is.

Point it out then. All of my posts are totally unedited. Where did I say the ELCA is conservative?
 
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Point it out then. All of my posts are totally unedited. Where did I say the ELCA is conservative?


The ELCA operates off of a national platform the same as the LCMS. To say that your Church is conservative and then turn around and say they allow female clergy is an oxymoron. Also as a denomination the ELCA condones abortion and homosexuality which would mean these are also condoned by your Church. If you are going to an ELCA congregation you are attending a liberal denomination.
 
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Confessional Lutheranism is the one place where the correct interpretation of Scripture is taught, where you get Law and Gospel, and where you receive the true body and the true blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. Nobody else offers the correct interpretation of Scripture and the Body and Blood of the Savior. This is very important to me. In my nearly 4 years of being a Christian (3.5 as a Confessional Lutheran) I have sought truth elsewhere, but I'm always brought back. Once you know truth, you can't run from it.
 
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What kind of lutheran church do you go to?

Wisconsin Synod.

How long have you been a member?

Approximately three years, I converted from Roman Catholicism.

What do you like about your church, what not?

Conservative theologically and liturgically.

How do you view their doctrine?

Straightforward law and gospel preaching, no sermons about money management or other lame stuff.

How important is it to you that you go to a lutheran church specifically?

Not very. I prefer a liturgical church, I suppose I would be at home in a conservative Anglican or Presbyterian church as well.

How well do you know the Lutheran Book of Concord? Do you have it, and do you regularly study it?

Fairly well. Studied it a bunch when I entered, haven't really looked at it since.
 
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