disturbances

mahesh said:

Then when im home, i constantly think about troublesome situations i have encountered. Everything in my power is telling me to stay away and avoid these circumstances as if im being protected by something. I feel like something is guiding me, at the same time, i feel like there is something opposing me, causing the disturbances, and difficulty with sleeping. Is there anything that can be done to help me reduce the thoughts, focus and help me not be affected by these disturbances.

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I would urge you to seek counseling with a mental health professional....

Ok, mahesh . . . yes, there is spiritual being stuff going on. We can have connection invisibly with other people. We can do things which help others to do what they do, or we can help them not to do certain things.

But we are not God. He knows you and cares about you. Even if you visited with your friend, we do not know how that would have effected him. I am thinking, now . . . if you did not have enough connection with him so you would spend more time with him, going to him after a year might not have done much . . . or - - he could have been so impressed to see you, that this could have helped him. But now we do not know. Now - - get with God, trust Him about everything, and now we can do the loving which we should be doing . . . for anyone . . . now. And God is good; let God be your good Judge about what you have done or haven't done. He will do what is right with you

About how you have experienced being guided and protected and given communication > there are two basic spiritual kingdoms > God's and Satan's. In the Bible, Paul talks about "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience" (in Ephesians 2:2). There is a lot of messing going on in the spirit of evil and its kingdom. The tendency of Satan's spirit is that we can be very much about only our own selves, and this can include being very concerned about what is our fault or not; so the wrong spirit can have us quite isolated with our own selves . . . oh yes, and the control we have or not . . . instead of first trusting God who is in real all-control.

In God's kingdom, we are aware of Him, resting, appreciating how He is doing better than what we can consider. So, this kind of frees us from worrying about what we could have done, since God does so much better than how we can think of "helping". Often, this happens to me > I think of how something should be done, how someone else needs to be straightened out, but then I go into the real situation . . . after prayer . . . to discover how things are better and go better than how I was considering

But in God's spiritual realm we do not have only control, be we enjoy peace and love and joy and rest . . . in spite of the evil in this world >

"Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." (Romans 12:21)

So, yes . . . any of us . . . can be involved in the confusion and hurts and bad influencing of Satan's evil spiritual realm. We need to not go along with that or give in to it, certainly not trust any negative and blaming and shaming stuff. But, while we stay and hang

fatboys said:

i just figured out as to why critics who believe the bible to be inerrant attack the Book of Mormon. They think that we believe the Book of Mormon to be inerrant. They love to go on about what they perceive as mistakes. We don't think the Book of Mormon is without error. It doesn't make any difference to Mormons whether or not the bible or the Book of Mormon is not perfect. We focus of what the true intent now suppose to get across to us

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fatboys said:

we are taught that even though it was translated through the gift and power of God man still can screw it up

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fatboys said:

The Book of Mormon is as fictional as the bible

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fatboys said:

Having the Gold plates is not going to give people faith that the Book of Mormon is the word of God na person needs to read ponder and pray about whether or not it is the word of God. If you believe that God still loves us just as he did in ancient times and that God should give us more than we have then km telling you he has. God came to a young boy and said he was to do a great and marvelous work. That was the bringing forth the Book of Mormon and the restoration of the church Christ establish on earth. But read the book. Read it with an open mind and without all the knowledge gleaned from the critics of the church. If a person is sincere in really wanting the truth God will reveal it through the power of the Holy Ghost. If they do not they are just flapping their gums. Wasting time. But if what we are saying is true don't you think it would be important to find out?

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around in Satan's wrong spirit, we can get guilty about things we have done, and Satan has a major blame game thing going, so you can feel like you control or could have controlled what other people have done.

So, we need to simply get with God, and discover all He is doing with us.

And with Jesus we will not be put to shame >

"Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame." (in Romans 10:11)

mahesh said:

Strange things are happening in my life. i feel like somehow i have an influence, over things that happen around me. When i observe my thoughts for the past 8-9 years, majority of time i think about the past. Somehow the past is influencing the kind of things that are happening around me. For instance, I lost my dear friend to suicide. Before he died when i didnt know he died, I had constant thoughts about my friend, worrying thoughts. Thoughts of my friend not wanting to see me, because i didnt see him for a long time. Maybe i should see my friend, something inside of me, was preventing me. Next thing you know he committed suicide.

When i was in college one of my roomates was drunk from late night party was so drunk he had to be dragged by his friend. This friend seem so nice to help my roomate home. i had constant worrying thoughts about him, like getting home safe. Next thing you know, he died from a car accident which my roomates along with his other friends who got seriously injured, couple of days later after a late night party.
From this i realise my thoughts are preoccupied with situations or circumstances that puts me at risk .
I avoided those situations. For instance, i avoided my friend, probably knowing something bad was going to happen to him and the closer I was to my friend more likely to be affected by it.
Furthermore, I avoided a late night party with my roomate and his friend the same day they got into a car accident.

I also realise when someone or something is bothering me, it some kind of spirtual disturbance. For instance, I saw this family, something was off about them, their kids are extremely disobedient and disrespectful to their parents. The mother whenever I see her, I am disturbed by her presence, I constantly have thoughts. I judge her cause she seems to be cold and distant toward her own children. However, the father is depressed and affectionate toward their children but when you compare it to the mother you see a big gap. I have worrying about the children future like being neglected and the depressed father. Next thing you know, other people feel the same way.

Then when im home, i constantly think about troublesome situations i have encountered. Everything in my power is telling me to stay away and avoid these circumstances as if im being protected by something. I feel like something is guiding me, at the same time, i feel like there is something opposing me, causing the disturbances, and difficulty with sleeping. Is there anything that can be done to help me reduce the thoughts, focus and help me not be affected by these disturbances.

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It sound a little like depression but lightly so, it could be you have a little obsessive compulsive behavior. Worrying can be an obsession. My sister in-law does a lot of worrying about just about everything. When she lost two babies to miscarriages it took a very very long time for her to move past it because she worried about everything there was to worry about. Her mind would fixate on one thing and she could not let go. I hope that makes sense to ya. Once she recognized her oppressiveness she began to laugh at herself and is able to kind of put an end to it, however she is on medication which helps greatly.

Mahesh; “Furthermore, I avoided a late night party with my roomate and his friend the same day they got into a car accident”

Perhaps that was a spiritual prompting, if you had gone you might have been in the same car. Someone is watching over you.


Mahesh; “I have worrying about the children future like being neglected and the depressed father.”

We all do this, at least us grandmas do. I shake my head an worry about some of the kids I see running through a store, parents screaming at them #*/#! But then I see my son in-law who was one of those neglected kids and I see hope. He wants more for his kids, so let go and know it’s all in the Lord’s hands.

Mahesh; “Is there anything that can be done to help me reduce the thoughts, focus and help me not be affected by these disturbances.”

“For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.” Matt 16

What did our Lord mean lose your life? I think he meant to lose your life in the service of others.

“And behold, I tell you these things that ye may learn wisdom; that ye may learn that when ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service of your God” Mosiah 2

First find some place in your neighborhood where you can donate some time. Make it something where you’ll see what you do makes a difference, not something to add to your depression. There are a lot of programs for handicapped people around who would love a volunteer. Just get a trash bag and start picking up trash around as you take a walk. My friend and I do this down at a near by pond. The fishermen often leave their fishing line with little weights on them which the ducks will swallow it so we clean it up. It’s a simple thing but we get some exercise and the pond is safer for our feathered friends. It doesn’t have to be a big thing.

Secondly see what you can do to change your home environment. Put on some soothing music or perhaps a little Tabernacle Choir. Buy yourself some flowers, I know you’re a man but fresh plants and flowers are a good for the soul. Try hanging some new curtains or painting a room. Buy a new recipe book and work your way through it. Go to bed early and rise early, I know you have some studding to do but seeing the sun rise can put a smile on your face.

Third, make some plans to go somewhere. Even if it’s a year from now have a goal. Come to Utah and see Capital Reef and Canyon Lands. Whatever it is have some exciting plans to look forward to.

And finally but most importantly spend some time on your knees thanking your Heavenly Father for all of your blessings,

Count Your Blessings
1, When upon life's billows you are tempest-tossed,
When you are discouraged, thinking all is lost,
Count your many blessings; name them one by one,
And it will surprise you what the Lord has done.

2. Are you ever burdened with a load of care?
Does the cross seem heavy you are called to bear?
Count your many blessings; ev'ry doubt will fly,
And you will be singing as the days go by.

3. When you look at others with their lands and gold,
Think that Christ has promised you his wealth untold.
Count your many blessings; money cannot buy
Your reward in heaven nor your home on high.

4. So amid the conflict, whether great or small,
Do not be discouraged; God is over all.
Count your many blessings; angels will attend,
Help and comfort give you to your journey's end

I have regretted decisions and choices, I’m sure most would say they have at one point in time, and it’s part of learning what to do again and what not to do I think. The key I think is to find how to focus the thoughts for good and/or which ones to tune into to and which are parts of the mental chatter going on in a person’s mind – which you can fine tune btw by understanding how this effects the psyche.

I find interesting the timings, that I could post here for you considering I’m on data overload currently and not doing a lot of writing or research with my computer on the edge of it’s span - a coincidence possibly but what about the idea of being inter-connected on some levels like you wonder? I too wonder about this, such as premonitions. Like a dream or feeling to proceed in a certain way.

Sometimes I wonder why I would have not listened to that inkling. There is a lot of variables so I personally believe a friend would understand your reasoning and be there to encourage you for the better so overplaying the regret button will make you loose your mind. One of my managers passed on from texts while driving while I was on vacation, yes I wondered if I had been there things could have been different.

The thing is you can’t go back and change things nor can I, just try to make some good out of the situations like learning.

I have struggled with depression (still do it being a process to stay recovered by thoughts) so our paths crossing I find intriguing with the post I made ‘The Psychology of Religion’ about what helps and how to incorporate into a Faith. There is a questionnaire I posted on page 2 you might find helpful even if your done with therapy.

Perhaps helping others who are depressed like your friend will help? It won’t change things but perhaps help you address regret with helping others similar to Major in Psychology, that’s for you to decide. For my situation - myself I will never text and drive, make’s me feel like I’m doing something they would want I suppose.

On a lighter note, I find the Amish people’s on ‘Vanilla Ice Goes Amish’ inspiring. Until then not really seen Mormonism in a positive light being taught other Religions are ‘of the Devil’ many years ago. Looking at this closer upon becoming Catholic, eventually making sense of that with a Zoroastrian worldview of ones leader and Lord being their choice. The legends of ‘Metal’ Plates of writings I find intriguing, in the end what of the accusers of it if it inspires one to think say and do good like Jesus (and Zoroaster) I believe would teach.

One of the potential signs of mental illness is that you do not recognize your delusions as such.

I'm no health professional, but what you describe here sounds like magical thinking.

mahesh said:

I didnt really believe in magical thinking but however, based on my experiences, im starting to believe it. Some things cant be explained by mere logics and rationalization. For instance, I went to tim hortons, my mother came along. Some random guy came up to my mother and stared at her face briefly and told me how lucky I am to have a mother like her. He writes something in a paper and gives it to my mother. He asks my mother what is her favorite color. My mother is like blue. Then he asks, how many childrens do you have?
My mother responds three. Then he tells her to open the paper, it was written her favorite color is blue and she had three children!!!. I was amazed. I looked at him, his eyes piercing right through me. I knew that encounter was more than what meets the eye. He told my mother how her open heart leads to people becoming jealous and thinking of her as enemies. She is not happy. She had a child that was aborted, that child hasnt moved on to another life, and is eager to be born again in her family or descendents of her children, which is the source of her unhappiness. My mother cried. I was stunned if that child thing was illogical, how did he know particular things like how my mother had an abortion. My mother and me never saw that man before. Everything he said was dead on. He said he will pray and give blessings for my family and gave a number, if we wanted to talk to him about anything. An encounter like this i knew just cant be explained. There are things beyond ourselves that are difficult to explain, such that even magical thinking seem plausible.

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10 to 1 if you call this character he's going to ask for money.

mahesh said:

well i did call the number, the number did not exist. It wasn't a contact card, he just wrote the number. I felt like it was meant to happen. I felt like it was way of heavenly father reaching out to me, as my family is experiencing difficulties. It was at its peak. Then this man appeared out of nowhere, if he was some kind of scam as you see it, he would have expected something from us instead nothing, or atleast give us a contact card. That number did not exist or not assigned as to speak, instead of not being avaliable. There is no way to explain it, your bothered by something specifically at particular point of time, you even pray and ponder about it, all of a sudden something happens to address that issue. Now my family is in peace. Its like some kind of change my family have experienced after that encounter, there is no tension, a kind of peace my family hasnt experienced for some time. This is not the first time i have seen something like this. I have seen something like this before where you meet people, they help someone at very desperate times, you see them for a while, all of a sudden they disappear, you enquire, no body knows who or where they come from, you never see them again.

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Angels.