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Oregon shooter was British
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That's an interesting take on my post....
Please elaborate where i've done such a thing.
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My point is that it doesn't matter who was and wasn't armed among the victims. They're dead. And they're not coming back.
Your posts seem like victim blaming to me. Rethink your words and how they affect people.
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The Fort Hood shooting killed 13 people and was at a military base. Is that a gun free zone?
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Yes, it DOES matter. It matters enough to find ways to prevent this senseless tragedy from occurring again.
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Should they have been? If the answer is yes, then you are blaming the victims for their own deaths.
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And, as Roseburg prepared last night to bury its dead, Mr Mercer said had his son not been able to get hold of the guns, “it wouldn’t have happened.”
“Look all over the world, you don’t see these kind of mass shootings all over the world on a consistent basis like you do in the United States, so somebody has to ask the question: ‘How is it so easy to get all these guns?’
He refused to discuss his son’s mental condition – it has been reported that he suffered from Asperger's syndrome and was a reclusive figure, obsessed with Nazis and the IRA, and angry that he didn’t have a girlfriend. Harper-Mercer forced fellow students to crawl over the floor and beg for mercy, before shooting them anyway, and wrote in a note before the shooting that he would be "welcomed in Hell and embraced by the Devil".
“Even people who believe in the right to bear arms, what right do you have to take peoples’ lives?
“That’s what guns are: killers, simple as that. It’s black and white. What do you want the gun for?”
Police announced on Saturday that they had found another handgun at the flat Harper-Mercer shared with his mother, taking the total number of weapons to 14.
“Look all over the world, you don’t see these kind of mass shootings all over the world on a consistent basis like you do in the United States, so somebody has to ask the question: ‘How is it so easy to get all these guns?’
He refused to discuss his son’s mental condition – it has been reported that he suffered from Asperger's syndrome and was a reclusive figure, obsessed with Nazis and the IRA, and angry that he didn’t have a girlfriend. Harper-Mercer forced fellow students to crawl over the floor and beg for mercy, before shooting them anyway, and wrote in a note before the shooting that he would be "welcomed in Hell and embraced by the Devil".
“Even people who believe in the right to bear arms, what right do you have to take peoples’ lives?
“That’s what guns are: killers, simple as that. It’s black and white. What do you want the gun for?”
Police announced on Saturday that they had found another handgun at the flat Harper-Mercer shared with his mother, taking the total number of weapons to 14.
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Interesting article
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...th-gun-was-on-ucc-campus-at-time-of-massacre/
As has been pointed the campus was not a gun free zone.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...th-gun-was-on-ucc-campus-at-time-of-massacre/
As has been pointed the campus was not a gun free zone.
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so that the only "armed" anybodies would be the criminals?
Yeah, that would makes us all safer, right?
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so that the only "armed" anybodies would be the criminals?
Yeah, that would makes us all safer, right?
And yet, look at all the mass shootings. Yeah, we're so safe right now. So safe.
If you had read, you would know I don't support the ban of ALL guns. I just think they need to be regulated more strictly than they are currently. Also no reason to own an assault weapon short of going to actual war.
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"It breaks my heart every time", said President Obama today as he responded to yet another shooting. Here are just some of the gun-attacks to have happened since his inauguration in January 2009.
March 2009 - Geneva County Massacre - 10 dead
Michael Kenneth McLendon, 28, a laid-off worker, opens fire while driving through several towns in Alabama.
April 2009 - Binghamton shootings - 13 dead
Jiverly Antares Wong, a naturalised American citizen from Vietnam, starts shooting at a civic centre in New York.
November 2009 - Fort Hood - 13 dead, 42 wounded
U.S. army psychologist, Major Nidal Hasan opens fire at the Texas military base.
February 2010 - University of Alabama in Huntsville - 3 dead, 3 wounded
Amy Bishop, a professor, starts shooting 50 minutes into a Biological Sciences Department faculty meeting, killing three colleagues and injuring three more.
August 2010 - Manchester, CT - 8 dead
Omar Thornton, 34, a driver for Hartford Distributors, leaves a disciplinary hearing and begins shooting before turning the gun on himself.
January 2011 - Tuscon, AZ - 6 dead, 11 wounded
Jared Lee Loughner, 22, shoots Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords in the head during a constituents meet-and-greet at a supermarket.
October 2011 - Seal Beach - 8 dead, 1 wounded
Amid a child custody dispute, Scott Dekraai, 41, walks into a crowded California hair salon and opens fire on his former wife. Dekraai pleads not guilty.
April 2012 - Oikos University - 7 dead, 3 wounded
One L. Goh, 43, a former student at the small Christian college starts shooting in a classroom.
July 2012 - Century 16 movie theater shooting - 12 dead, 58 wounded
James Holmes, 24, is arrested after entering a cinema during the late-night premiere of "The Dark Knight Rises" and opening fire. He had booby-trapped his apartment with explosives and was recently jailed and given 12 life sentences.
December 2012 - Sandy Hook Massacre - 27 dead, 1 wounded
Adam Lanza, 20, forces his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. He kills 20 first-graders and six adults. Before arriving at the school, he had killed his mother at their home. At the White House, President Obama wipes away tears, saying “our hearts are broken today".
June 2013 - Santa Monica College - 5 dead
John Zawahri, an unemployed 23-year-old, kills five people in a rampage which begins at his father home and ends in the California college's library.
September 2013 - Washington Navy Yard - 13 dead, 3 injured
Aaron Alexis, a Navy contractor and former Navy man, engages police in a running firefight in the Washington D.C. industrial complex before being shot and killed.
May 2014 - UC Santa Barbara - 7 dead, 7 wounded
Elliot Rodger opens fire in the campus town of Isla Vista, California from inside a black BMW. Rodgers acted alone and written and video evidence suggest the attack is premeditated.
June 2015 - Charleston, South Carolina - 9 dead
White supremacist, Dylann Roof, begins shooting in a historic black church in an attempt to start a race-war.
August 2015 - Roanoke, Virginia - 3 dead, 1 wounded
Vester Lee Flanagan II AKA Bryce Williams shoots dead two former colleagues from the WDBJ7 news team.
October 2015 - Umpqua Community College, Oregon - At least 9 dead and 7 wounded
A gunman attacked a college in Oregon killing at least nine people and injuring seven. Police named the attacker as Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, who had posted online messages about other recent massacres.
March 2009 - Geneva County Massacre - 10 dead
Michael Kenneth McLendon, 28, a laid-off worker, opens fire while driving through several towns in Alabama.
April 2009 - Binghamton shootings - 13 dead
Jiverly Antares Wong, a naturalised American citizen from Vietnam, starts shooting at a civic centre in New York.
November 2009 - Fort Hood - 13 dead, 42 wounded
U.S. army psychologist, Major Nidal Hasan opens fire at the Texas military base.
February 2010 - University of Alabama in Huntsville - 3 dead, 3 wounded
Amy Bishop, a professor, starts shooting 50 minutes into a Biological Sciences Department faculty meeting, killing three colleagues and injuring three more.
August 2010 - Manchester, CT - 8 dead
Omar Thornton, 34, a driver for Hartford Distributors, leaves a disciplinary hearing and begins shooting before turning the gun on himself.
January 2011 - Tuscon, AZ - 6 dead, 11 wounded
Jared Lee Loughner, 22, shoots Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords in the head during a constituents meet-and-greet at a supermarket.
October 2011 - Seal Beach - 8 dead, 1 wounded
Amid a child custody dispute, Scott Dekraai, 41, walks into a crowded California hair salon and opens fire on his former wife. Dekraai pleads not guilty.
April 2012 - Oikos University - 7 dead, 3 wounded
One L. Goh, 43, a former student at the small Christian college starts shooting in a classroom.
July 2012 - Century 16 movie theater shooting - 12 dead, 58 wounded
James Holmes, 24, is arrested after entering a cinema during the late-night premiere of "The Dark Knight Rises" and opening fire. He had booby-trapped his apartment with explosives and was recently jailed and given 12 life sentences.
December 2012 - Sandy Hook Massacre - 27 dead, 1 wounded
Adam Lanza, 20, forces his way into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. He kills 20 first-graders and six adults. Before arriving at the school, he had killed his mother at their home. At the White House, President Obama wipes away tears, saying “our hearts are broken today".
June 2013 - Santa Monica College - 5 dead
John Zawahri, an unemployed 23-year-old, kills five people in a rampage which begins at his father home and ends in the California college's library.
September 2013 - Washington Navy Yard - 13 dead, 3 injured
Aaron Alexis, a Navy contractor and former Navy man, engages police in a running firefight in the Washington D.C. industrial complex before being shot and killed.
May 2014 - UC Santa Barbara - 7 dead, 7 wounded
Elliot Rodger opens fire in the campus town of Isla Vista, California from inside a black BMW. Rodgers acted alone and written and video evidence suggest the attack is premeditated.
June 2015 - Charleston, South Carolina - 9 dead
White supremacist, Dylann Roof, begins shooting in a historic black church in an attempt to start a race-war.
August 2015 - Roanoke, Virginia - 3 dead, 1 wounded
Vester Lee Flanagan II AKA Bryce Williams shoots dead two former colleagues from the WDBJ7 news team.
October 2015 - Umpqua Community College, Oregon - At least 9 dead and 7 wounded
A gunman attacked a college in Oregon killing at least nine people and injuring seven. Police named the attacker as Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, who had posted online messages about other recent massacres.
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Then if guns were made illegal in all across the country do you think the criminals would not have guns?
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Other Western countries have far less gun violence than we do, and stricter gun control, so we have models to follow.
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How about Australia? Do they have strict gun laws? Or how about France?
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The solution isn't banning guns from everyone. It is making it difficult for mentally unstable people to get ahold of them. The average criminal isn't going into a middle school, high school or college campus to shoot up the up the place. Most people who commit crimes, even with guns, aren't that deranged.
What we should actually be addressing is mental health. That's the real problem that connects all of these senseless killings.
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Are you aware that conservatives have been saying all along that the problem is with mental illness?
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