Oregon shooter was British

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And to think in England guns are illegal, but in America Chris Harper-Mercer slaughtered 9 people with guns he legally acquired and then made himself his final victim. At least he saved tax payers the cost of a trial.

But really, who gives a care where he was born. It's what he did prior to taking his own life in America that matters.
 
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He expressed support for the IRA and fascism.
So not that different from some Americans then - aryan brotherhood, KKK And the us was always a source of funding during the troubles in Ireland.
 
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So not that different from some Americans then - aryan brotherhood, KKK And the us was always a source of funding during the troubles in Ireland.
Well, I suppose we can blame the US for the world's troubles ...
 
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45 mass murders let's get the religion)all isms) all deviants to natural law) of all those shooters and the religion of their victims?

then let see if we can pretend that islam and atheist and socialists are so innocent of bigotry and ( what are they calling christians now days?) ? now that would be a interesting story as long as the college or academy doing it has a reveiw process which includes a
"chistian" reveiw process also . meaning someone isn't called a christian because he know how to spell Jesus last week and his great grandma drug him to church twice when he was little . or he was a homo who found christian kids in sunday schools were easy pickings because they are guarded a little longer and taught to trust and hope for the best a little longer than the other kids in the rat race figured out the hard way by then.
 
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He expressed support for the IRA and fascism.
His support for the IRA is explained by the fact that he was born in Britain? I would have thought that makes it harder to explain, given how rare such an attitude is in the UK. Much more so than in the US, which was the source of most of the IRA's financial support.

Support for facism is also very rare here. I would be surprised if you could make a convincing case that it is more common in the UK than in the US. I imagine there probably isn't much difference.

And in any case, he apparently moved to the US as a 'young boy'. Which was probably before he formed most of his political opinions.
 
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His support for the IRA is explained by the fact that he was born in Britain? I would have thought that makes it harder to explain, given how rare such an attitude is in the UK. Much more so than in the US, which was the source of most of the IRA's financial support.

Support for facism is also very rare here. I would be surprised if you could make a convincing case that it is more common in the UK than in the US. I imagine there probably isn't much difference.

And in any case, he apparently moved to the US as a 'young boy'. Which was probably before he formed most of his political opinions.
OK, then, we can blame the US for his issues ...
 
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OK, then, if you want to blame the US for all his issues ...

Person grows up in the USA, legally buys many guns in the USA and goes on a murder rampage in the USA.

I also fail to understand why you were trying to make some cheap joke at the start of this thread about such an atrocity.
 
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Person grows up in the USA, legally buys many guns in the USA and goes on a murder rampage in the USA.

I also fail to understand why you were trying to make some cheap joke at the start of this thread about such an atrocity.
It wasn't a cheap joke at all. It's a rebuttal of the arguments about how such violence is a US problem ... when it isn't. The IRA is a UK issue. Fascism/Nazism is a serious European issue ... never has been a serious US issue.

Bottom line ... shooter was a mental case without any clear religious or political motivations.
 
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It wasn't a cheap joke at all. It's a rebuttal of the arguments about how such violence is a US problem ... when it isn't. The IRA is a UK issue. Fascism/Nazism is a serious European issue ... never has been a serious US issue.

Bottom line ... shooter was a mental case without any clear religious or political motivations.

Stating his place of birth, saying it explains his beliefs followed by a winking smiley looks like an attempt at cheap 'Oh look, he's British - how funny' humour to me. Perhaps not how you meant it, but that's how it came across.

Thankfully the IRA has disarmed and the situation is many times better than it was in the past (though there are still occasional extremists sadly). The IRA is neither fascist nor Nazi, neither of which are a serious issue in Europe today as it has been in the past.
 
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Goonie didn't do that. He was pointing out it wasn't the black and white issue you tried to turn it into.
I agree it's not black and white. Per previous post, the shooter was a mental case without clear religious or political motivations.
 
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Stating his place of birth, saying it explains his beliefs followed by a winking smiley looks like an attempt at cheap 'Oh look, he's British - how funny' humour to me. Perhaps not how you meant it, but that's how it came across.
If it helps any, I edited out the smiley.
Thankfully the IRA has disarmed and the situation is many times better than it was in the past (though there are still occasional extremists sadly).
For some strange reason, the shooter still chose to acknowledge his support for the IRA.
The IRA is neither fascist nor Nazi, neither of which are a serious issue in Europe today as it has been in the past.
Depends on what one consider serious, I suppose. Seems like some Nazi parties were getting upwards of 10% of the vote in recent eastern European elections. That seems serious to me.
 
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That helps to explain some of his crazy political perspectives.
Not really. But it does show that if a Brit wants to commit mass-murder, he should do it in the US where it will be much easier for his evil plan to come to fruition.
 
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Not really. But it does show that if a Brit wants to commit mass-murder, he should do it in the US where it will be much easier for his evil plan to come to fruition.

is that because most here in the US don't have guns in their possession?
 
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