Unequally Yoked or Not That Serious?

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Sorry for the odd end to that post, but I just had a pretty profound physical experience... I started to experience some very intense internal pain in the middle of my post. Gut wrenching pain in my chest and upper abdominal area. I thought I was possibly having a heart attack... I could barely stand the pain and rushed to the first aid kit for aspirin and grabbed my phone to call 911. It was scary. I was praying to God for help and healing. I stumbled around the house in intense pain for about ten minutes clutching my phone and chest while praying before it finally started to subside. I don't know what it was, but I feel better now. It seems it was an intense gastronomical attack of some sort. Very scary. Never experienced that sort of thing before...

No idea what it means or how it pertains to my reply to your post...

Go to the hospital and get checked out. You sound like you may have had a small heart attack. Heart attacks often present as gastric attacks. If it was a small heart attack, it very well could be followed by a large one. You don't have to agree to be admitted if you have a clean blood test and a clean ECG...(wait for at least two troponin blood tests which are 4 hours apart to both be negative)....but gastric problems don't usually hit suddenly nor resolve themselves suddenly. It is better to rule out a heart problem than play "wait and see" and have a big attack that you can't come back from. Lots of people die this way.
 
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Interesting interpretation. I guess it does sound like that. As for him not going to heaven, that's between God and him. He said he was a staunch believer at one point. Is he backslidden or has he lost his salvation? I guess it depends on what school of thought you subscribe to. I don't believe someone who's made a genuine conversion can lose his salvation. He may attain heaven by the skin of his teeth, but he'll be there. HIs problem, in a nutshell, is that he's deeply angry at an omnipotent God because God wasn't omnipotent in the way he thought he should be. I don't know that that necessarily negates his salvation.

As someone who has lost her husband to death, the simple fact that I know he is someplace better now and that I will see him again is the only reason I have survived this crippling grief. I can't imagine living if I knew he was gone from me forever. This isn't about if he lost his salvation but rather if he really ever was saved. You don't walk away from a true belief...so he either still believes and is rebelling or else he never really believed that God was GOD...neither sound like the stuff good marriages are made of. And yes, only God knows who is written in the book of life but honestly, our lives are the indicators of who mostly likely will be there. The most horrible grief I have seen in the widowed community comes from believing the separation is permanent (both Christians who were married to unbelievers and non-Christians who don't believe in an afterlife). If I loved someone enough to marry him, I wouldn't be okay even wondering if I would loose him for eternity. (I don't believe that I will be married to my husband in heaven, but I do believe that I will see him again and love with outshine anything we have experienced here.)
 
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Much wisdom has been dispensed in this thread... Looks like I found some good folks to spend some internet time with...

I can understand your friend's pain; I've gone through some pretty crappy life experiences that caused me to have some terse conversations with God. Sounds like your friend was raised to believe in God as the Fairy of Good Things, and when he found out that there is A LOT of bad things that happen to good people in this evil world, that he held God responsible for not preventing them.

He needs to seek competent, professional Christian guidance, ASAP.

I once doubted my faith because my wife of 20 years said that a REAL Christian wouldn't be tempted by inappropriate contentography, or drink, or lose his temper, etc, etc.

When she refused marriage counseling, I sought out a Christian therapist on my own. I explained to him my wife's observations and told him I was really concerned that I wasn't a Christian. He told me, "Travis, if you didn't love the Lord and weren't a Christian, then you wouldn't worry that you weren't a Christian..."

Those words changed my life...

I spent $50 for an hour of true Christian counseling that affirmed my belief in God and
My ex was an atheist and autistic and said that since I was a christian I had to be more or less perfect and not lose your temper, just always stay perfectly friendly, so I said: Why don't you invite Jesus in your heart now and I expect you to be perfect tomorrow. Sanctification is a process and you can ask God to lead you into repentance and get real good prayer in a good church or ministry, that really helps giving you a breakthrough in things.
 
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Sorry for the odd end to that post, but I just had a pretty profound physical experience... I started to experience some very intense internal pain in the middle of my post. Gut wrenching pain in my chest and upper abdominal area. I thought I was possibly having a heart attack... I could barely stand the pain and rushed to the first aid kit for aspirin and grabbed my phone to call 911. It was scary. I was praying to God for help and healing. I stumbled around the house in intense pain for about ten minutes clutching my phone and chest while praying before it finally started to subside. I don't know what it was, but I feel better now. It seems it was an intense gastronomical attack of some sort. Very scary. Never experienced that sort of thing before...

No idea what it means or how it pertains to my reply to your post...

So, to finish my original thoughts...

Strongly encourage your friend to seek some spiritual guidance. His turning away and anger towards God is completely understandable. He needs to talk to someone professionally trained and educated in Christian counseling to face his doubts and ultimate turning away.

If he truly cares for you and that spark of faith is still present, then he will speak with someone. He is in your life, now. You can choose to either try and help him find his faith again, or choose another path.

It's a dangerous and enticing crossroads you find yourself at... Approach it from a spiritual and Biblical perspective; find the love of Christ within your heart and follow the path it leads you on.
So glad to hear you're ok, but I agree that you should be checked out if you haven't already. What you described does sound like a heart attack.

As for the man I'd posted about, he drifted out of my life. I'm disappointed that he did. I followed him for a bit on Facebook, but decided to stop doing so. I'm sure it's for the best.
 
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Oh, I'm fine... I had a scare a couple of years ago when I was working 70 hours a week in a high-stress job and went to the best cardiologist in Arizona. He said my heart was remarkably healthy for an overweight 43yr old smoker...

Yeah, it's probably better that the guy drifted off. Since my divorce when I've been desperately lonely, I started pursuing relationships with women that were poor choices. After the relationships ended or went back to "friends" status, I was able to look back and say to myself, "what was I thinking???"

I've found that God does a pretty good job of protecting me from myself...
 
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This is an incredibly difficult question (so I can add nothing of real value unfortunately). I am so very much like you in that I could almost mirror your thoughts exactly.

I'm in my 30's but I still think about this and how much of an impact such a question should have on my dating life. I think of all the men I have turned away because their faith was 'less mature' than mine. Then, I'd come across the ones who seemed more spiritually mature but they were even more picky than I was! I really don't know at this point.

For me, my faith has ebbed and flowed throughout my life. It's never remained a constant degree of sameness. It's unfair to have unrealistic expectations in any relationship and perhaps for me, this is an area I've been unrealistic in.

What concerns me about your post though is when you state that it's unlikely anything major would come about at this point in your life and so, in that sense, you don't see this as much of a valid concern. Lord-willing, there won't be. But realistically... Life happens. Anyone you choose to be with should be someone you can count on, trust and provide some accountability. Can this man do that?


I have a question that I’m fairly sure I know how most would answer, but I will throw it out there anyway. I just turned 55 and have been single after a divorce for almost 20 years. Not happily so, I might add. I very much want to marry again, but it’s just not happening despite getting back into the dating scene about 7 years ago. (Went 12 years straight without a single date!) I’ve been a believer since I was 20, got married at 25 and largely worshipped alone because of my husband’s military career and an inauthentic relationship with God. And being alone since my marriage ended, I’ve worshipped and served God alone. My question is this: While the Bible teaches we’re not to be unequally yoked, what point is there in trying to find someone whose walk matches my own, at this point in my life?

I’m not in ministry and don’t anticipate being in ministry. As long as I marry someone who is ok with me serving God even if he doesn’t care to do so himself and we are compatible in other areas of our lives, would it be so terrible? Certainly, I would prefer a man whose relationship with the Lord mirrors my own or is even stronger (as I’ve been having many doubts lately), but I’ve discarded many a man who believes in God, even attends church but doesn't adhere to a biblical walk. I feel like I can worship alone as a married woman as well as a single woman. My sister has done it successfully for almost 30 years.

I’ve met a man who was once a staunch believer but has walked away from the faith. Abuse as a child, atrocities of war, the death of his fiancé – all have taken a toll. One of the things he appreciates about me is my faith, funny enough. I think I can handle the spiritual divide as we have other areas where we're compatible. He's fine with me believing as long as I don't tell him what he should believe. He'd even attend church with me if I asked, because he's the type of guy to do anything for his lady. His choice not to believe often forces me to dig deeper into my own beliefs to answer some of his questions.


If I were younger I probably wouldn't ask this question. But my life is more than half over and it's been pretty low-key until now. I don't anticipate any major things happening that it would be important to be married to a strong believer (like ministry).

Thoughts? Help me reason through this. TIA.
 
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