Donald Trump Jr Met With The Russians And Oops I Just Yawned

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Ok. Dershowitz makes a similar defense as renown 1st Amendment lawyer, scholar, and law professor Eugene Volokh.

The argument is Trump Jr. has a First Amendment right to receive information, including incriminating information about Clinton from a foreign national. The argument is not meritless. I linked to Volokh's 1st Amendment defense of Trump Jr.'s conduct in another thread at this forum.
 
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Ok. Dershowitz makes a similar defense as renown 1st Amendment lawyer, scholar, and law professor Eugene Volokh.

The argument is Trump Jr. has a First Amendment right to receive information, including incriminating information about Clinton from a foreign national. The argument is not meritless. I linked to Volokh's 1st Amendment defense of Trump Jr.'s conduct in another thread at this forum.
Sounds like we are in kind of a legal grey area?
 
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Well.... umteenth times a charm. Lets see who they accused so far...Flynn, but they got nothing. Sessions... Nothing....Kushner, notta. Now Don Jr? Next will be Eric, then probably Barron colluded. This really is getting ridiculously obvious witch hunting and they aren't even trying to hide that they are...

Who exactly are "they"...??

Who caused Flynn to lie about his Russian connections? Who made Trump fire him?

Who caused Sessions to lie about his meetings?

Who made Junior blab about his meetings with the Russian lawyer? Who made him release the entire chain of emails which document his collusion?

Listen, when you decide to give yourself an uppercut...? There is no "they", there's only dumb you......
 
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Oh come on... They're going down the line. Watch. Eric's next. What's with their sexism? Why not pin colluding (word of 2017, colluding) why not pin it on Tiffany Trump? Or Marla Maples? I'm sure they colluded... colluded. Colluded. Colluded. Colluded. You know who colluded? Donna Brazil colluded with Hillary and you know who else? Lynch. And you know who else? Obama and Rice and Comey.... those are your "colluders"

There, there........it'll all be over soon...
 
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All one has to do is just refute the claims...

No, as is the case with most of your utterances, you have that totally, 180 degrees, WRONG.

It's the responsibility of he who makes the claim to provide evidence for it. It's called the burden of proof....learn it.
 
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From the, "Let's run this to ground", files: Donald Trump Jr Met With The Russians And Oops I Just Yawned

At this point, if you’re like me, you just stifled a yawn. It’s not that I don’t care about foreign influence on our elections. I do. It’s that I don’t believe there was any substantive effect on our election by Russia. We own this one, boys and girls, and can’t blame it on a foreign bogeyman.

Suppose, for the sake of argument, that the worst imaginings of anti-Trump Democrats and their Russia Narrative are all true ...

It would mean that there was dirt in the Democrat campaign bad enough for Russia to use.
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It should be noted that the very fact that Trump, Jr. had to reach out to a Russian lawyer to discuss dirt on the Clinton campaign means that the campaign had no ongoing connection to Russia.
Please for the love of God, make it stop. I hated the email scandal with Clinton and Whitewater and all that mess and I hate the Russian thing even more. Health Care Reform is screaming for bipartisan work and it's wandering around in political limbo because Trump's son was stupid enough to go to a meeting that accomplished nothing. I'm not a revolutionary but if they don't get to something substantive soon I'm ready to lead the riot to stop them. We can drag the journalists of of Fox, CNN and MSNBC out into the streets and waterboard them until they agree to stop this.

Donald Trump jr. is guilty of being stupid, shaaaame on hiiiiim! But it's politics and they are human so things like this happen. Can we move on now? Please.
 
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Please for the love of God, make it stop. I hated the email scandal with Clinton and Whitewater and all that mess and I hate the Russian thing even more. Health Care Reform is screaming for bipartisan work and it's wandering around in political limbo because Trump's son was stupid enough to go to a meeting that accomplished nothing. I'm not a revolutionary but if they don't get to something substantive soon I'm ready to lead the riot to stop them. We can drag the journalists of of Fox, CNN and MSNBC out into the streets and waterboard them until they agree to stop this.

Donald Trump jr. is guilty of being stupid, shaaaame on hiiiiim! But it's politics and they are human so things like this happen. Can we move on now? Please.

I can see your frustration, but there were probably people crying for 'moving on' midway through the Watergate investigations. Should they have been heeded...?
 
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I can see your frustration, but there were probably people crying for 'moving on' midway through the Watergate investigations. Should they have been heeded...?
It's not the same thing, quit denigrating Nixon, he made a mistake but he doesn't deserve to be lumped in with Trump. The firing of Comey had me alarmed and Trump will answer for that. His administration has lied and his tweets are a propaganda machine unparalleled but we know the difference between hyperbole and real world truth. I can't stand listening to this over and over, there is just too much at stake.

Maybe I'm flying off the handle, guess I need a break from all of this. But I don't care about this meeting with the Russian lawyer, there are too many real issues involved. I miss Obama, heck, I miss George W. Bush, I really miss the days when politics were boring. Can we get back to boring details like how the government works?

Otherwise I think I'm going to really lose it and...I don't know...start a revolution. I don't like Trump and I delight in seeing him embarrassed in the press. But this is getting ridiculous.
 
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It's the responsibility of he who makes the claim to provide evidence for it. It's called the burden of proof....learn it.
:oldthumbsup:

Exactly! Despite nearly a year of media hysteria on the matter, that standard has not yet come close to being met.
 
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All one has to do is just refute the claims...

We figure we'll just do as everyone else did when he spread the Parkinson's claims, or the Pizzagate claims... wait until it unravels on its own.

But hey, you believe him this time, and that's adorable...
 
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Donald Trump jr. is guilty of being stupid, shaaaame on hiiiiim! But it's politics and they are human so things like this happen. Can we move on now? Please.

It's illegal for someone in an election campaign to accept help from a foreign government... now, if Junior just came out and said, "look, I did something stupid and didn't know what I was getting into, and I'm sorry," then sure, we could let the whole thing slide in time for the next scandal.

Alas, Junior is his father's son, and just wants to lie his way through it... he just keeps making it worse...
 
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It's illegal for someone in an election campaign to accept help from a foreign government...
Didn't happen.
... now, if Junior just came out and said, "look, I did something stupid and didn't know what I was getting into, and I'm sorry," then sure, we could let the whole thing slide in time for the next scandal.
Isn't that what Don Jr did already? :scratch:
 
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