OBAMA admits to being Muslim

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Wait.... you mean you actually KNOW the history of the warlord Mohammed and his made up religion and yet you still defend it? That's scary. Do you still consider the man with 13 wives, one a six year old, to be a holy man? Maybe you, an Islamic scholar, can answer this for me. How many people did Mohammed murder; directly or indirectly? Has anyone ever calculated that?
^^^ This :thumbsup:
 
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Errrr.. did you not watch the video? Obviously not. Try reading the blurb of writing at the start of it.

So we take his slip as meaning more than it does?

I and all true Christians not only have the right to judge, but we are admonished to judge who is true and who is not a real Christian.
I'm just gonna sit here and shake my head in amazement that you obviously have never read the new testament! lol

Only in the sense that they not follow false theologies. But otherwise we have statements from Christ like this:

He presented another parable to them: "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while people were sleeping, his enemy came, sowed weeds among the wheat, and left. When the plants sprouted and produced grain, then the weeds also appeared. The landowner's slaves came to him and said, Master, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Then where did the weeds come from?'
"'An enemy did this!' he told them.
"'So, do you want us to go and gather them up?' the slaves asked him.
"'No,' he said. 'When you gather up the weeds, you might also uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At harvest time I'll tell the reapers: Gather the weeds first and tie them in bundles to burn them, but store the wheat in my barn.'" Matthew 13.

Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Matthew 7
 
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Reading from Numbers:
31:7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; andthey slew all the males.
31:8
And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.
31:9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
31:10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.
31:11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.
31:12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.
31:13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.
31:14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle. (31:14) "Moses was wroth with the officers"
(31:15) "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?"
31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
31:18
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Where did Muhammad do anything equal to this?
 
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But Hillary who prays and talks to dead presidents wives and practices necromancy

She doesn't practice necromacy and Woodward never said she did. She imagined having a conversation with Eleanor Roosevelt. Have you never pretended you were talking to someone after they passed away. Careful how you answer. God will judge you if you lie.

, and Obama who supports abortion and gay marriages and is obviously trying to destroy America, are ANTI-Christian all while claiming to BE Christians. His being Muslim would explain a WHOLE lot.

Explains his support for abortion and gay marriages? Yeah, right.

Regardless, the fruit he's displayed, his belief and support of abortion, along with many other junkyard activities, proves he is not a born again Christian.

As I'm sure Via Crucis will tell you, being born again in orthodox Christianity means you are baptized. Obama was baptized a Christian. But he is not 'born again' according to the heterodox definition popular in what passes for evangelical Christianity in America.
 
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ooh, and in addition to my last reply to you above, I'm still waiting for you to show everyone where in the bible it states that anyone who CLAIMS to be a Christian, really IS one!
Have you ever actually read the bible?? :scratch:

Yes, as the passage I quoted from Matthew 25 indicates that anyone who does not receive the stranger (i.e. refugees) is not of Him. Are you willing to accept Syrian refugees?
 
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Only in the sense that they not follow false theologies.
You cannot leave out half the Word of God and only cherry pick verses out of context...well you can but those with any biblical sense and understanding at all will reject your attempts to manipulate the Word of God.

Jude 1
"Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints. 4 For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
5 Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, 7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire."


and then there's this...

1 Cor 5
"I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.
 
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ooh, and in addition to my last reply to you above, I'm still waiting for you to show everyone where in the bible it states that anyone who CLAIMS to be a Christian, really IS one!
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You cannot leave out half the Word of God and only cherry pick verses out of context...well you can but those with any biblical sense and understanding at all will reject your attempts to manipulate the Word of God.

So says the person who doesn't hesitate to take Bill Clinton's or Obama's statements out of context in.

Jude 1
"Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints. 4 For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.[/QUOTE]

Gee, do you suppose he is talking about false theologies like I suggested?

1 Cor 5
"I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.

Well, if you think you can excommunicate Obama, go for it.

But I note you didn't answer my question as to whether you would receive Syrian refugees, you know the "least of my brethern?"
 
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I and all true Christians not only have the right to judge, but we are admonished to judge who is true and who is not a real Christian.
I'm just gonna sit here and shake my head in amazement that you obviously have never read the new testament! lol
Erm, I don't think that's the word you were looking for.
 
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Errrr.. did you not watch the video? Obviously not. Try reading the blurb of writing at the start of it.
the one that says they don't have any proof President Obama is a Muslim? So I guess that makes you both even. :wave:


I and all true Christians not only have the right to judge, but we are admonished to judge who is true and who is not a real Christian.
Could you list the Scriptures that say we get to decide if someone is a Christian or not? I'd be interested in seeing them. :wave:

I'm just gonna sit here and shake my head in amazement that you obviously have never read the new testament! lol
I'm just amused you assume because I don't agree with you that means I've never read the New Testament. :D
tulc(see's you still haven't provided any proof of President Obama being a Muslim) :sorry:
 
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ooh, and in addition to my last reply to you above, I'm still waiting for you to show everyone where in the bible it states that anyone who CLAIMS to be a Christian, really IS one!
Not really what this thread is about, but I'm still wondering why you feel that proving President Obama isn't a Christian (which you haven't) somehow proves he is a Muslim. :sorry:

Have you ever actually read the bible?? :scratch:
I read it and live it to the best of my ability every day. Thank you for asking. :wave:
tulc(finds your posts to be a lot of fun, and pretty funny!) :D
 
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So what?
Pffft

Ahhh! When confronted by someone who knows quite a bit more then you do about something, you fall back on the 4th grade school yard response: "So's yer mom!" followed by the ever devastating raspberry? :scratch:
tulc(wonders if the "I'm rubber, you're glue, bounce off me stick to you!" can be far behind?) :D
 
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i'm trying to find the part in the video where Obama admitted he was a Muslim. No luck so far.
At about 1 minute and 8 or 9 seconds, he is talking to a reporter and says something like 'John McCain hasn't talked about my Muslim faith'.
The whole thing sounds bogus woo to me, but that one is hard to figure out.
 
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Islam is genetic now? Sure, why not?

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