Time is right for US, NATO to drop Turkey

[ArmenianJohn]

Regardless, the author knows nothing about Turkish politics. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan never pretended to be a liberal. He is an Islamist. That doesn't make him a supporter of ISIS. If he did, Erdogan would have to give up his own position and recognize al-Baghdadi as his Caliph. Not going to happen.

Erdogan is an Islamist but that's not what makes him an ally of ISIS. What makes him an ally of ISIS is that they have two common enemies in Assad and the Kurds. What strengthens that alliance is all the aid Turkey gives ISIS in return for cheap oil that ISIS is stealing from Iraq.

That author knows far more about Turkish politics than you do. But you have a bias, you have pre-existing sympathies towards both Turkey and ISIS.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Anyhow, we are derailing this thread. Let's go back to hating Turks.

Who here is hating Turks?

 

[smaneck]

That author knows far more about Turkish politics than you do. But you have a bias, you have pre-existing sympathies towards both Turkey and ISIS.

Whereas you as an Armenians, don't huh?

 

[smaneck]

Who here is hating Turks?

The one calling Turkey our enemy. Now who could that be?

 

[TerranceL]

What more must it take for the West to admit to themselves that Turkey is pro-ISIS, pro-Terrorism and an enemy to us? The time is right to drop them and stop enabling them and thereby enabling ISIS and terrorism. Enough is enough. What Turkey did to Russia is a crime and indefensible. I hope Putin strikes back VERY hard at Turkey. VERY, VERY hard.

www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2015/11/25/turkey-downs-russian-plane-joins-with-islamic-state-u-s-should-drop-new-ottoman-empire-as-ally/

The turks deny the Armenian genocide it's beyond me why we have relations with them.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Whereas you as an Armenians, don't huh?

Correct - we Armenians don't have sympathies towards either ISIS or Turkey - why would you think we do?

 

[ArmenianJohn]

The one calling Turkey our enemy. Now who could that be?

So calling Turkey our enemy means I hate Turks? By that reasoning I guess it's safe to say that you hate Syrians...and that's no surprise to me.

 

[Sketcher]

What we (and the rest of the world) need is for cooler heads to prevail between Russia and Turkey. What ISIS needs is for this affair to escalate into WWIII.

 

[Vylo]

Turkey just wants everyone over there to murder each other so they don't have a strong neighbor to worry about. Assad was a threat. They may have miscalculated though, as ISIS could become much worse.

 

[PatrickT]

No, we can´t drop turkey. Germany just negotiates a pact with turkey so they block all refugees. It is important for germany to be sucessful in those negotiations and if we drop turkey, e will create a massive problem. They would just open the flood gates.

We don´t like it, but have no alternative.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

No, we can´t drop turkey. Germany just negotiates a pact with turkey so they block all refugees. It is important for germany to be sucessful in those negotiations and if we drop turkey, e will create a massive problem. They would just open the flood gates.

We don´t like it, but have no alternative.

Germany for some reason loves Turkey. The Germans helped Turkey commit the Armenian Genocide. Germany and Turkey have bloodthirstiness as a common trait.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

What we (and the rest of the world) need is for cooler heads to prevail between Russia and Turkey. What ISIS needs is for this affair to escalate into WWIII.

Cooler heads should prevail after Russia retaliates.

 

[Vylo]

Cooler heads should prevail after Russia retaliates.

That's not cooler heads, and Russia retaliating could be absolutely disastrous. Let's not start another world war please.

 

[smaneck]

So calling Turkey our enemy means I hate Turks? By that reasoning I guess it's safe to say that you hate Syrians...and that's no surprise to me.

Did I call Syria our enemy?

 

[smaneck]

The turks deny the Armenian genocide it's beyond me why we have relations with them.

We are supposed to cut off relations with a country for something they did a hundred years ago?

 

[smaneck]

Correct - we Armenians don't have sympathies towards either ISIS or Turkey - why would you think we do?

Yes, the very fact you put them side-by-side with ISIS expresses your hatred.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

We are supposed to cut off relations with a country for something they did a hundred years ago?

And have never acknowledged or apologized for and have lied about and have continued racist policies and actions based on that same genocide.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Did I call Syria our enemy?

So you consider Assad our friend?

 

[smaneck]

No, we can´t drop turkey. Germany just negotiates a pact with turkey so they block all refugees. It is important for germany to be sucessful in those negotiations and if we drop turkey, e will create a massive problem. They would just open the flood gates.

We don´t like it, but have no alternative.

Let me get this straight. You want to support Turkey so you don't have to take in any refugees yourself?
Lovely.

 

[smaneck]

So you consider Assad our friend?

I don't consider Assad Syria.