should i vote for donald trump?

[Poor Beggar]

Media Hype for the most part



He's giving the same lip service they all give, he just says it louder



I don't think his religious affiliation should matter since the office of President is a secular job



No


I'm not sure what your political affiliation is, but if you're a conservative, there are better choices in the field than Trump. Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, and Ben Carson would all be better choices than Trump.

I think there's something deeper going on than ideology for their excited support of Trump. They see something in Trump that they want more of as a leader. My question: What is it about Trump that supremacist find so attractive? And why would I want to be a part of that?

Keep in mind that reactionaries are hard to distinguish from their far-leftist counterparts. Their motivations are just different.

 

[dlamberth]

Wouldn't it make more sense to research to see what those reasons are?

You don't get it...that's exactly what I'm doing. Have you looking into why the supremacist are so excited for Trump?

 

[Poor Beggar]

the next year will be the first year that I can vote for president. I hear lots of people talking about Donald trump and he seems like he is a strong guy on the issues. is he a good Christian and should I vote for him? will he fix the global economy?

Here's a good place to start when researching candidates because the best predictor of future human behavior is past behavior. http://votesmart.org/
Don't let candidates trick you. Once they're in office they'll do more of what they've done before. One of the problems with Trump is this site won't help us. One strength of Trump is he's likely to realize that business practices are designed around cost-efficiency, something most career politicians don't understand.

 

[MorkandMindy]

There are actually rights and wrongs in politics, it isn't all just a matter of opinion. Some things work and some things don't.

The reason Donald Trump has so much support, is he stands for what the Republican Party used to stand for.

To his credit he rejects many of the New Republican Party's aims and as a result has reconnected with the supporters.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

You don't get it...that's exactly what I'm doing. Have you looking into why the supremacist are so excited for Trump?

Care to share some of those reasons with the group?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Do you have a link to stormfront's endorsement of Sanders?

No...and I'm not about to go to that website from my work computer lol
(not in the mood to get in trouble with HR today lol)

The point I was making is that shared ideas or an endorsement from a group doesn't make the person they're endorsing guilty by association.

As I pointed out, the folks at stormfront also strongly endorse socialized healthcare (there are easy to find links for that, I've posted them in other threads her on CF in a similar thread a couple years back), that doesn't mean that socialized healthcare is a "nazi" value, or that anyone who also supports socialized healthcare has a secret nazi agenda that everyone else should try to avoid.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

I'd do just what I'm doing and ask what is it that they see in that person?

If you you really just want to know, why don't you just go to Stormfront and ask them directly? I'm sure they'll be happy to tell you.

 

[stamperben]

No...and I'm not about to go to that website from my work computer lol
(not in the mood to get in trouble with HR today lol)

Don't worry, even if you did you wouldn't find it.

The point I was making is that shared ideas or an endorsement from a group doesn't make the person they're endorsing guilty by association.

As I pointed out, the folks at stormfront also strongly endorse socialized healthcare (there are easy to find links for that, I've posted them in other threads her on CF in a similar thread a couple years back), that doesn't mean that socialized healthcare is a "nazi" value, or that anyone who also supports socialized healthcare has a secret nazi agenda that everyone else should try to avoid.

I get that point and can agree with you. However, if any group such as stormfront were to endorse Sanders you can rest assured that Sanders would repudiate that endorsement. We haven't heard that from Trump though.

 

[Rationalt]

We haven't heard that from Trump though.

May be your regular sources don't report them.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I get that point and can agree with you. However, if any group such as stormfront were to endorse Sanders you can rest assured that Sanders would repudiate that endorsement. We haven't heard that from Trump though.

According to some articles, he has repudiated the endorsements.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-white-supremacists_55dce43ee4b08cd3359dc41a

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-not-hitler-fan-article-1.2339329

In a Wednesday sitdown with Bloomberg Politics, Trump said he didn’t need or want Duke’s endorsement and would repudiate it “if it would make you feel better.”

 

[Willtor]

A few things to think about for your first vote:

* Make sure you're registered so they'll have your name at the polling place when you go. In some states, you can do this online.
* The Democrats and Republicans each have to pick 1 candidate for the election. There are a number of people in each party, at this point, who want to run as those parties' candidates. So there will be a pre-election (primaries) to decide who the final candidate for each party will be. Donald Trump is the most popular Republican nominee at this time, but the primaries haven't been held, yet, so he isn't the Republican candidate for president.
* Voting in the primaries or in the general election (the final, presidential election) is about who you think will do a better job on the issues that you think are most important. You might visit a non-partisan website -- some data aggregator -- and see how each of the candidates matches up. (isidewith is one I took and liked)

 

[stamperben]

According to some articles, he has repudiated the endorsements.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-white-supremacists_55dce43ee4b08cd3359dc41a

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-not-hitler-fan-article-1.2339329

In a Wednesday sitdown with Bloomberg Politics, Trump said he didn’t need or want Duke’s endorsement and would repudiate it “if it would make you feel better.”

"If it would make you feel better."? That's no repudiation. That's the talk of a parent seeking to pacify a child.

 

[stamperben]

May be your regular sources don't report them.

Do yours?

 

[Poor Beggar]

A few things to think about for your first vote:

* Make sure you're registered so they'll have your name at the polling place when you go. In some states, you can do this online.
* The Democrats and Republicans each have to pick 1 candidate for the election. There are a number of people in each party, at this point, who want to run as those parties' candidates. So there will be a pre-election (primaries) to decide who the final candidate for each party will be. Donald Trump is the most popular Republican nominee at this time, but the primaries haven't been held, yet, so he isn't the Republican candidate for president.
* Voting in the primaries or in the general election (the final, presidential election) is about who you think will do a better job on the issues that you think are most important. You might visit a non-partisan website -- some data aggregator -- and see how each of the candidates matches up. (isidewith is one I took and liked)

Thanks for that link! I sided 92% with Ted Cruz and 16% with Bernie Sanders.

 

[Willtor]

Thanks for that link! I sided 92% with Ted Cruz and 16% with Bernie Sanders.

Yeah. I like the non-partisan groups. I sided 93% with Bernie Sanders when I took it a couple of months ago.

Also, be aware that there are more questions you can answer on the topics that are important to you. There's a widget at the bottom of each section that opens more.

 

[Poor Beggar]

Yeah. I like the non-partisan groups. I sided 93% with Bernie Sanders when I took it a couple of months ago.

Also, be aware that there are more questions you can answer on the topics that are important to you. There's a widget at the bottom of each section that opens more.

Yeah, I saw that. Thanks!

 

[ThatRobGuy]

"If it would make you feel better."? That's no repudiation. That's the talk of a parent seeking to pacify a child.

But his statement saying "I don't want or need their support" doesn't qualify?

If you were his speech writer how would you have worded it?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Yeah. I like the non-partisan groups. I sided 93% with Bernie Sanders when I took it a couple of months ago.

Also, be aware that there are more questions you can answer on the topics that are important to you. There's a widget at the bottom of each section that opens more.

I actually took that one a few days ago when someone posted it from another thread.

I ended up with 85% Rand Paul...which makes sense since he's the most libertarian-leaning of the candidates up there.

 

[stamperben]

But his statement saying "I don't want or need their support" doesn't qualify?

If you were his speech writer how would you have worded it?

"I will have nothing to do with any organization that calls for white supremacy."

I have a feeling that if you go and see ALL statements The Donald has uttered over the years you'll find that his saying "I don't want or need their support" has happened many times. Just not wanting or needing it doesn't minimize the fact that he is getting it.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

"I will have nothing to do with any organization that calls for white supremacy."

I have a feeling that if you go and see ALL statements The Donald has uttered over the years you'll find that his saying "I don't want or need their support" has happened many times. Just not wanting or needing it doesn't minimize the fact that he is getting it.

I feel like you may be moving the goal posts a bit (or at the very least splitting hairs). You first said he made no repudiation of it, I posted two articles, one where he stated that he disavowed racism, and another where he said he didn't want their support. ...then you shifted the goalposts saying that wasn't good enough because he didn't word it in a way that was to your liking, so you're acting as if 'that doesn't count'.

Racists were claiming to back him
He disavowed racism
He said he didn't want their endorsement