The Church That Donald Trump Says He Goes to ‘A Lot’ Says He’s Not an ‘Active Member’

[Blank Stair]

I am absolutely amazed that not a single person has posted this yet:

The man can tap dance can't he? Which part of the Bible is his favorite? Trum answers, probably equal.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

I wouldn't think it should be a real concern. If the church says in effect they don't know him as well as he claims they should, because he goes there a lot, chances are you're not likely to find him in the pew.

So in other words a liar.

 

[Billnew]

There are many Christians that attend a church several times a year.
There are many Christians that aren't an active member in the church they attend.

I'd much rather have a person attend a church several times a year, than attend a racist church regularly and proclaim they never knew it was racist.

 

[Blank Stair]

Well the difference here is Democrats and cross aisle voters elected one liar traitor twice and he still has less than 20 months to go.
While the other liar hopes to court the gullible on the opposing team so that he can have his first shot.
The man's website has a DONATION button. When he started his campaign saying he's not asking for money, he doesn't need money, yadda yadda pay me.

 

[Cute Tink]

It is not incorrect. This thread contains article link)s) that has the church defining what active member means. And when they say that Donald Trump is not an active member that would indicate he does not fit the criteria of active member when he claims he goes to this church a lot.

Thanks.

And their criteria is not simply "go to church a lot". It means filling out a form, attending a three part membership series and ... nevermind, I'll just quote it again. Please point out the part that says "go to church a lot":

Let us know. Speak with someone wearing a red carnation after the service on Sundays or Wednesdays. You’ll find them next to the chancel or at the Welcome Table. If you worship with us online you can submit the form below along with an email to Membership@MarbleChurch.org.

Fill out a New Member Information Form, and submit it online, or in person on Sunday or Wednesday.

Attend our three-part Membership Series, scheduled on Sundays or watch for a “Pop-Up” express series Wednesday evenings.

• Orientation: You’ll have the opportunity to get to know one another, ask any questions you may have, meet Senior Minister, Dr. Michael Brown and other members of the staff and learn more about Marble.
• Connect with us: This luncheon is designed to enrich your experience at Marble, and to explore how you can spark, or continue your faith journey with us.
• Reception of New Members: Finally, experience the full Marble welcome as you are received into the community during the worship service.

I'm not seeing the part where it says "go to church a lot and you'll be an active member". Please quote it.

 

[Blank Stair]

Thanks so much for your personal observations.
If you require information on what Donald Trump said please take the time to look through the links that have been posted in this thread so as to answer any questions you may have. Or correct those points that you've missed.
Furthermore, it has not been stated in this thread that which you authored yourself in quotes at the end of your remarks. Do not add to this thread and then ask someone to prove your own creation appears in any part of the articles linked in this thread.
That would be helpful to all concerned.
Again, thank you for your personal observations.

 

[Cute Tink]

Then perhaps you would like to quote your source that "going to church a lot" means you are an "active member". I'm sorry I'm not good with passive-aggressive posting.

 

[Blank Stair]

Then perhaps you would like to quote your source that "going to church a lot" means you are an "active member". I'm sorry I'm not good with passive-aggressive posting.

You seem to be getting better at it. However, my prior remarks stand.
I realize you hope to inspire someone to become inflamed at the track you're taking here and are now at quite a loss that your efforts are rebuffed. That's how it shall be if you continue in your pursuit. Please consider your behavior and think more of yourself.
God have mercy.

 

[Cute Tink]

You seem to be getting better at it. However, my prior remarks stand.
I realize you hope to inspire someone to become inflamed at the track you're taking here and are now at quite a loss that your efforts are rebuffed. That's how it shall be if you continue in your pursuit. Please consider your behavior and think more of yourself.
God have mercy.

I'm addressing you directly. That post I was referring to is desperately trying not to when it remains clear that you are aiming it at me.

You are claiming Trump is a liar over this issue. You want to use your own definition of what it means to be an "active member" when the church has an explicit one. I'm sorry, but I fail to see how you can substantiate your claim that Trump is a liar when clearly the church doesn't mean "goes to church a lot" when they say "active member".

There is plenty to dislike about Trump, but this one falls apart with basic scrutiny.

 

[Blank Stair]

I'm addressing you directly. That post I was referring to is desperately trying not to when it remains clear that you are aiming it at me.

You are claiming Trump is a liar over this issue. You want to use your own definition of what it means to be an "active member" when the church has an explicit one. I'm sorry, but I fail to see how you can substantiate your claim that Trump is a liar when clearly the church doesn't mean "goes to church a lot" when they say "active member".

There is plenty to dislike about Trump, but this one falls apart with basic scrutiny.

There's not a lot more I can say. When you twist what is in this thread and in print because you have a personal issue with me, I leave you to it.
Trump claimed he goes to this church a lot. You did read where he said that? Did you see where he said that in the video?

The church said he is not an active member, and they defined what an active member is. When the church defines what an active member is, and they say that Donald who claimed he goes to church a lot, does not meet that criteria, he is not an active member.

I hope that helps you. If it doesn't that's unfortunate. Do not continue to pursue your agenda of personal attack against me any further. You create a statement out of your own imagination in another post you published in this thread and then tell me to go find where that statement appears in this thread. That in itself was a bit concerning.
But that you're now pursuing this cause when all the evidence you'll ever get from me is already in this thread, and rebukes everything you're now making up, that's just a pitiable shame. Perhaps you should commit to some personal introspection and ask yourself why you're behaving this way. And then call me passive aggressive when in the charity of Christ I attempt to point out to you your behavior.

Till then. God have mercy.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Trump may or may not go to church a lot - there's really no way of knowing this for sure.

I don't think he meant to indicate that he was an "active member" of the church in question anyway. He just used that church as an example.

In summary, church attendance really means zilch in the grand scheme of things. He could persist that he was a religious guy, church-going, etc. and still be the world's biggest political troll.

 

[Blank Stair]

Trump may or may not go to church a lot - there's really no way of knowing this for sure.

I don't think he meant to indicate that he was an "active member" of the church in question anyway. He just used that church as an example.

In summary, church attendance really means zilch in the grand scheme of things. He could persist that he was a religious guy, church-going, etc. and still be the world's biggest political troll.

It seems to be a derailing tactic that's being employed at this point. Semantics, even if they must be conjured from one's own imagination.
I admired Trump's moxie for speaking his mind. However, I think his inserting his religious beliefs into this is a tactic, a ploy, not a genuine articulation of faith that merits his inclusion in the body of Christ. He's doing it to schmooze to the religious base in the GOP.
He thinks it is too personal to share his favorite Bible verse. Yet the scriptures he should know admonish the Christian to go forth and proclaim the good news. To not be ashamed of the word, etc...
When asked which part of the Bible he prefers, old or new testaments, he says it's about equal. Paraphrasing there.
His faith isn't so personal that he didn't trumpet it on the campaign trail. And yet when asked to get specific it is too personal or he views the like for the testaments equally.
I'd have paid real money to see a journalist ask him how many books are in the protestant Bible.

I now tend to see him as you mentioned; a political troll.
I think this is just another game for him, a business pursuit. He's said at the beginning of this campaign that he doesn't want money (donations), he doesn't need money (donations), because he's rich and he can't be bought. However, on his official campaign website there's an impossible to miss donation button.

He's said in the debate that he's given money to politicians, Democrat Hillary Clinton was mentioned, because they do what he wants them to do when he does that. Now he's seemingly throwing those politicians he's elbow to elbow with under the bus?
And he did not discount the possibility that he'd run third party if necessary?

I think Trump is collaborating with the Democrats, who he was affiliated with before announcing he's a Republican, so as to interject the spoiler effect into the 2016 election. And that's why he's not discounting the third party run should it become necessary.
Like unto what Nader and Perot did in their day.
And I'll even go so far as to say come 2017 we'll be seeing president Hillary Clinton sworn into office.

 

[Rationalt]

If Trump is the way he is and goes to that church, I know which church I will never visit, because they are doing something wrong.

The church is alright.Apparently it was family's tradition and nothing more.He definitely didn't learn from that church that poor are blessed.

 

[Rationalt]

I've read the entire thread. In fact, here's the entire 2nd post that you referenced:



Emphasis mine.

See that bolded word? The criticism is about his perceived dishonesty, not his religiosity. Every subsequent criticism is along those lines.

You can emphasise all you want as me and others said it is subjective.

"Went to the church a lot " is subjective.

 

[iluvatar5150]

You can emphasise all you want as me and others said it is subjective.

You're free to disagree with the criticism, that's fine. But to claim that the criticisms are about his lack of religiosity and not his (alleged) hypocrisy is so incredibly wrong, one would have to wonder if you're actually reading the criticisms.

 

[Rationalt]

You're free to disagree with the criticism, that's fine. But to claim that the criticisms are about his lack of religiosity and not his (alleged) hypocrisy is so incredibly wrong, one would have to wonder if you're actually reading the criticisms.

hypocrisy and religious belief often go hand in hand. Now, get off your high horse.

The leftists were probably snickering silently about Obama's christian faith.

 

[Jan Volkes]

Going to church or not means nothing because Mr Trump is going nowhere politically, he is merely in the game to enhance his own profile. I bet he will even have the nerve to say that he 'gave it his best shot' when he walks away.

 

[brewmama]

There's not a lot more I can say. When you twist what is in this thread and in print because you have a personal issue with me, I leave you to it.
Trump claimed he goes to this church a lot. You did read where he said that? Did you see where he said that in the video?

The church said he is not an active member, and they defined what an active member is. When the church defines what an active member is, and they say that Donald who claimed he goes to church a lot, does not meet that criteria, he is not an active member.

I hope that helps you. If it doesn't that's unfortunate. Do not continue to pursue your agenda of personal attack against me any further. You create a statement out of your own imagination in another post you published in this thread and then tell me to go find where that statement appears in this thread. That in itself was a bit concerning.
But that you're now pursuing this cause when all the evidence you'll ever get from me is already in this thread, and rebukes everything you're now making up, that's just a pitiable shame. Perhaps you should commit to some personal introspection and ask yourself why you're behaving this way. And then call me passive aggressive when in the charity of Christ I attempt to point out to you your behavior.

Till then. God have mercy.

Wow, you just cannot address facts when they are presented to you. You are misrepresenting everything Cute Tink said, and not very graciously. And denying facts spelled out very succinctly.

 

[iluvatar5150]

The leftists were probably snickering silently about Obama's christian faith.

I know plenty of leftists and plenty of atheists (the two groups are not synonymous, many of the atheists I know are libertarian), and many within both groups who have no qualms at all about criticizing organized religion. I can't recall ever hearing anybody from either group say much of anything about Obama's religion. They've levied plenty of criticisms against him for other things, but not that. I don't share my beliefs with everyone, and I've frequently been witness to conversations ripping other Christians, so it's not like these individuals would hide these criticisms of Obama from me out of sensitivity. The commentary I've heard about Obama's religion has been almost exclusively from right-wingers. My guess is that this is because Obama doesn't do much pandering to the religious crowd, and what turns off the leftists and atheists is not so much the religiosity as it is the pandering and the attempts to elevate Christianity to a favored legal status. Obama talks about his faith, but doesn't typically talk about non-Christians in a dismissive or derisive way and doesn't govern in a way that favors Christians over others.

 

[Blank Stair]

Wow, you just cannot address facts when they are presented to you. You are misrepresenting everything Cute Tink said, and not very graciously. And denying facts spelled out very succinctly.

Defending a falsehood isn't gracious. Reading a minute part of this thread, Cute Tink's, and then jumping on me on their behalf isn't gracious.

No, I'm not denying facts. Cute Tink and you apparently are simply glossing over this thread, while not bothering to read the outside links so as to be fully informed of the facts. That's rather lazy. And it's even worse when in light of that Cute Tink pounds an issue he doesn't know anything about due to that.

Your remarks should be directed at Cute Tink.Who badgers when they are apparently not inclined to read the links provided that answer their questions that they refuse to accept when I've answered them repeatedly.
Furthermore, it is not gracious to misrepresent the truth when you attempt to defend someone who's done that consistently in their pursuit of me in this thread.

Also, it isn't very gracious when Cute Tink fabricated a statement from their own imagination and then challenged me claiming I said that! And then challenged me to find proof of where I was entitled to say that in the links , articles, I've provided in this thread.

Before you start defending someone know what you're talking about. Don't demonstrate you don't have a care to read this thread in full, including the supporting links to outside sources, before you jump on someone in the name of someone who's behavior is just like that.

I'll not respond to you again. You don't know what's going on but you enter slinging judgment? God have mercy.