I know that the Holy Spirit is God of the Triune God, and I believe that truth, BUT...
Nowhere in the Bible does it say to worship the Holy Spirit nor honor the Holy Spirit in worship, and I believe the reasons why is that God's glory rests in the Son,
John 13:31 Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him. 32 If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him.
...and that the Holy Spirit was sent to dwell in us to lead us to glorify the Son and by Him, God the Father;
John 16:13-14King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me:.....
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
.. because the only way to honor the Father in anything is to honor the Son, and the moment we stop honoring the Son, even if it was to honor the Holy Spirit, which the Holy Spirit in us would never lead us to do, we are no longer honoring the Father.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
I would testify that verse 22 above weighs the importance of this discussion because all believers will be judged by this. If you do not believe that, then explain John 5:22-23, and explain why no mention of honoring the Father by honoring the Holy Spirit is there. You are not going to find scripture anywhere to support worshipping the "Trinity" as "Trinity" when the only name above all other name is the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God by Whom God the Father is glorified by.
Application of this belief can be supported by the words of Paul as he gave this warning in verse 12 below.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
If I am reading this wrong, you have to prove that by explaining what Paul is asking believers to always obey even in his absence then.
I believe in the Triune God, but scripture does not support the modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D. stand on the practise of worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son. I do believe the Nicene creed is in violation of the Father's will on the only way we are to honor Him in worship, and that is by honoring the Son in worship.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
That was not about just salvation, but how we come to God the Father in anything.
And that is what the Holy Spirit has been sent to dwell in us in leading us to do; to not speak of Himself in seeking His own glory, but of the Son in seeking His glory, and by doing so, honoring & glorifying the Father at the same time.
We can only honor The Father in worship by only honoring the Son in glorifying Him, as it is by Him, we honor & glorify God the Father. The way has been broadened in worship as warned by Jesus in Matthew 7:13-27 and the solution is to narrow the way back to putting the spotlight only on the Son in worship in Luke 13:24-30 if we seek to honor God the Father at all. Those two references show why many believers will be left behind from the Marriage Supper at the pretribulational rapture event which adds weight to the standard of judgment raised as mentioned earlier in John 5:22-23
There are no scripture supporting the practise of worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son. There are scripture testifying to the Holy Spirit being of the Triune God, but it is not the deity of the Holy Spirit that is in question, but the will of the Father in how Jesus has testified specifically how we are to honor the Father and that is by only honoring the Son. There is no other way to do this in worship.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say to worship the Holy Spirit nor honor the Holy Spirit in worship, and I believe the reasons why is that God's glory rests in the Son,
John 13:31 Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him. 32 If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him.
...and that the Holy Spirit was sent to dwell in us to lead us to glorify the Son and by Him, God the Father;
John 16:13-14King James Version (KJV)
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me:.....
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
.. because the only way to honor the Father in anything is to honor the Son, and the moment we stop honoring the Son, even if it was to honor the Holy Spirit, which the Holy Spirit in us would never lead us to do, we are no longer honoring the Father.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
I would testify that verse 22 above weighs the importance of this discussion because all believers will be judged by this. If you do not believe that, then explain John 5:22-23, and explain why no mention of honoring the Father by honoring the Holy Spirit is there. You are not going to find scripture anywhere to support worshipping the "Trinity" as "Trinity" when the only name above all other name is the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of God by Whom God the Father is glorified by.
Application of this belief can be supported by the words of Paul as he gave this warning in verse 12 below.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
If I am reading this wrong, you have to prove that by explaining what Paul is asking believers to always obey even in his absence then.
I believe in the Triune God, but scripture does not support the modified Nicene creed of 381 A.D. stand on the practise of worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son. I do believe the Nicene creed is in violation of the Father's will on the only way we are to honor Him in worship, and that is by honoring the Son in worship.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
That was not about just salvation, but how we come to God the Father in anything.
And that is what the Holy Spirit has been sent to dwell in us in leading us to do; to not speak of Himself in seeking His own glory, but of the Son in seeking His glory, and by doing so, honoring & glorifying the Father at the same time.
We can only honor The Father in worship by only honoring the Son in glorifying Him, as it is by Him, we honor & glorify God the Father. The way has been broadened in worship as warned by Jesus in Matthew 7:13-27 and the solution is to narrow the way back to putting the spotlight only on the Son in worship in Luke 13:24-30 if we seek to honor God the Father at all. Those two references show why many believers will be left behind from the Marriage Supper at the pretribulational rapture event which adds weight to the standard of judgment raised as mentioned earlier in John 5:22-23
There are no scripture supporting the practise of worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son. There are scripture testifying to the Holy Spirit being of the Triune God, but it is not the deity of the Holy Spirit that is in question, but the will of the Father in how Jesus has testified specifically how we are to honor the Father and that is by only honoring the Son. There is no other way to do this in worship.
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