Do they feed these eggs? Do they fly? Because I'd like to see that.
Once again, your attitude is condescending. I really wish you wouldn't do that.
Of course, those eggs don't fly...however the parents stay very close to that nest, and...oh, wait! We have baby birds this morning!
I can operate without kidneys, eyes, a lung, ears. You do realize those can be removed or malfunction and I'd be okay right? Oh and the Appendix can be completely removed.
You wouldn't operate very well or for very long without those bits. You'd need help with eliminating urine without your kidneys, you'd need to be led around without your eyes, you'd have some problems breathing with only one lung, and you'd be deaf without your ears. Although you'd be fine without your appendix, that is true. I notice you did not put the heart on your list...
Ahaha. I'm not gonna dignify this. You're doing that on purpose.
What, Grim? Pointing out that a newborn is helpless? If no one picks him up shortly after birth, he will die. But what of it? It's not really a person yet, is it?
And that's the end of the argument. Night folks!
Actually, I don't intend to go on with this too much longer.
Frankly, it's all old hat, and getting quite boring.
I do love a dash of sarcasm....
I would have thought it was obvious. A woman can plot her "fertile time" and simply avoid having sex during those few days. It's not as if anyone is going to load all the men up in a spaceship and take them away...there will be men for her to....uh....love...afterwards...
Well when the other person shows up let us know. But terminating an early pregnancy isn't killing a person so...
Again with the condescending attitude.
I'm letting you know...the person showed up before the woman even knew she was pregnant.
Never heard that story, sorry to hear that. If it makes you feel better rarely drink.
I don't drink.
Nope. I'm surprised there are people that aren't part of MADD.
I'm proud of you, Grim.
It's good to know that you do have some respect for life...
Yes. That's why legal, less harmful procedures are much more practical.
I don't think you quite get it.
Well what if it's life threatening? Giving birth can be harmful or fatal to alot of women.(Source:
http://www.unfpa.org/maternal-health) If advised by a doctor that she may severely harmed or die from giving birth, what then?
Oh, Grim...in those very rare cases where carrying to term would threaten the mother's life, of course, the decision must be between the family and their doctor. Of course, it always was.
What if it's severely damaging mentally and causes PPD? This isn't a new revelation.
PPD? Do you mean "post partum depression"? Hun, most of us have a bout of that after the baby is born. It is usually not serious, and goes away rather quickly. A new Mom doesn't really have time to sit around and be depressed...
What about women who were raped? This is the main reason for it. Pregnancy is involuntary so they can't just choose to not have the child should that occur.
Again, in those vanishingly rare cases where someone gets pregnant by rape, the decision ought to be between her and her doctor. I will tell you, though, there are a few women who chose to keep the baby, and the decision brought her great joy. She sees her little girl as the good thing that came from her suffering.
What if the woman is infected by their mate (or rapist) or themselves with HIV?
No one would expect a woman with HIV to try to carry a child. Grim, you're reaching, here. I'm not sure someone with HIV could even get pregnant...
These are very tough decisions to make and I doubt anyone just makes it lightly but we have to keep the door open for women to make the decision. The fact that pregnancy is involuntary is the reason we have this choice. This is why me and other people defend the decision even though we don't like it either. It's their choice to make. They don't just wake up and say "Yup, abortion" walk in like a salon and then walk out.
Most pregnancy is not "involuntary". The man and the woman know exactly what they are doing, and they chose to take the chance that the woman might get pregnant.
Do you understand what I am saying? The woman
CHOSE to have sex,
KNOWING that she could get pregnant.
The only time you could honestly say that pregnancy is "involuntary" is in the case of rape, which we covered above.
What I've been saying all along is...make responsible choices.
And that goes for the guys, as well. I don't think it's quite fair to lay it all on the woman. Guys tend to get the idea that, oh, well, if she does get pregnant, it's her problem. She can get an abortion. It's her responsibility, not mine....
It's preventing a future life from ever being born. A lot of people take that thought process into deep consideration.
Exactly.
We must not shut out their decision to control their life. It's tough to grasp and is hard to swallow but that's how it has to be.
Nobody wants to shut out a woman's right to control her own life. However, women
MUST make responsible choices. Sex is a very powerful thing...it is not a toy to be played with.
And hardcore terrorists and badgers who bomb clinics and stand outside shouting down women making an incredibly difficult decision like they're not in enough anguish makes them horrible disgusting people. How dare any of you cast judgement on them?
I agree with you about bombing clinics, or shooting doctors, or any of that nonsense. We are pro LIFE....not pro violence.
And the women who picket clinics...well, they do have the right to do that, under the Constitution, and I won't say that they are wrong for what they are doing. There is always the hope that someone in anguish might be saved from making a horrible decision that is going to haunt her for the rest of her life.
Wouldn't it be so much better to see her, a happy mother with her adorable baby in her arms than an emotional wreck who keeps having nightmares about her dead baby?
