The only begotten Son of God

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JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
JESUS IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD-JESUS IS NOT GOD

II Jn 1:3
3 Grace, mercy, and peace will be with you from God the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
Acts 2:36-39
36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?"
38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39 "For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call."
Rev 1:5-6
5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,
6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
John 1:18
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
1 Tim 2:5
5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
John 1:18
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
Col 1:15
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Eph 4:4-6
4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling;
5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
6 one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
I Jn 5:5
5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
1 Cor 8:6
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
Rev 3:14
14 "And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, 'These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:
Acts 2:22
22 "Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know--
2 Cor 5:19
19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
Joh 1:12-13
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
John 6:46-48
46 "Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father.
47 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
Matt 3:16-17
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.
17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
John 3:16
16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 3:18
18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 1:18
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
I Jn 4:9
9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him.
48 "I am the bread of life.
2 Cor 5:18-19
18 Now all things are of God, who has reconciled us to Himself through Jesus Christ, and has given us the ministry of reconciliation,
19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
John 3:13
13 "No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.
John 5:37-40
37 "And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form.
38 "But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe.
39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
40 "But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
Heb 1:1-3
1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets,
2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;
3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
Heb 1:5-6
5 For to which of the angels did He ever say: "You are My Son, today I have begotten You"? And again: "I will be to Him a Father, and He shall be to Me a Son"?
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "Let all the angels of God worship Him."
John 5:22-23
22 "For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,
23 "that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
I Jn 4:15
15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.
I Jn 4:2-3
2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
I Jn 4:4-6
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them.
6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
John 3:34-36
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
35 "The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.
36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
John 3:33
33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.
John 10:37-38
37 "If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me;
38 "but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him."
Phil 2:5-11
5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth,
11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Gal 6:7-8
7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
8 For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.
John 4:23-24
23 "But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
24 "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
I Jn 2:22-23
22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.
23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Matt 10:33-34
33 "But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.
34 "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
Matt 11:27
27 "All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
1 Cor 8:4-6
4 Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one.
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords),
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
John 8:36
36 "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.
II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
James 1:13
13 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone
Heb 4:14-15
14 Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.
15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.
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XXX We can see that God cannot be tempted, and we can see that Jesus was tempted the same as we are. The revelation I received here shows me that God was in Christ. So we have one body with two Spirits in it. Is this possible, yes because your spirit is in your body along with the Holy Spirit along with unclean spirits along even the devil. So it is no great feat to recognize that God was in Jesus' body along with Jesus' Spirit along with the Holy Spirit. We can also see from the revelation that we as a people have never heard Gods voice nor seen His form. But we as a people seen Jesus and heard His voice. Now if the only way to the Father is through Jesus, and we cant get there any other way. Then we want to be sure we have the right Jesus to follow. But If Jesus is God as some confess, then the Jesus the bible talks about didnt exsist. And if the Jesus the bible talks about doesnt exsist, we cant get to the Father. And we also know that the Holy Spirit isnt God, because we are suppose to hear and learn from the Holy Spirit, but yet we have never heard Gods voice nor seen His form. And we can see that Jesus is not the Holy Spirit because Jesus said that we couldnt receive the Holy Spirit until He(Jesus) left and went to heaven. And in John we can see why Jesus prayed to God that we the people become one with them in the same way that they are one.
You should take special notice at Rev 3 where Jesus says He was created. And also Col 1-15 And being created means He isnt God, because God does all the creating.

Col 1:15
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
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The KJV was taken from all these versions. The 1611 KJV was the one who added "He" in place of "IT". The He was added to give the Word authority. God is neither male nor female and we call Him a "He". The Holy Spirit is neither male nor female and we call Him a "He". He is a Spiritual title of authority. And the KJV wanted to give the Word(verses) the same title of authority.

Tyndale 1534:
Joh 1:1 In the beginnynge was the worde and the worde was with God: and the worde was God. 2 The same was in the beginnynge with God. 3 All thinges were made by it and with out it was made nothinge that was made. 4 In it was lyfe and the lyfe was ye lyght of men

Bishops 1568:
Joh 1:1 In the begynnyng was the worde, & the worde was with God: and that worde was God. 2 The same was in the begynnyng with God. 3 All thynges were made by it: and without it, was made nothyng that was made. 4 In it was lyfe, and the lyfe was the lyght of men,

Geneva 1587:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that Word was God. 2 This same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made. 4 In it was life, and that life was the light of men.

And now our modern Concordant Literal Version:
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was toward God, and God was the word. " 2 This was in the beginning toward God. 3 All came into being through it, and apart from it not even one thing came into being which has come into being." 4 In it was life, and the life was the light of men."


GO TO GOD IS THE FATHER
what it seems you are trying to say is merely what "you" are trying to say..

but we must repent and believe God...
 
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Many today are limiting God with their own understanding,
He knows and will not change plans because of our immiturity.
Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father, all who are His recieve truth and agree with it.
Others He yearns for and waits and watches for their choice.
One life, one choice, choose wisely advises this daughter of God.
Putting one another down, is immiturity. We can do better, we are called to a higher calling.
Jesus Christ is raised from the dead and seated at the right hand of His Father, and our Father.
Praise be forevermore!
 
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I'm sorry but this is absolute New Age, Deepak Chopra bunk.

Isaiah says that there is no other God besides YWH. Your Genesis citation is also an example of Scripture twisting. There is a someone(s) coming, but they will deceive many. They will be the Antichrist and his false prophet who will espouse a version of what you are espousing now.

Christ will come back too, but He will destroy the Antichrist and the false prophet and all who followed them and took the mark and worshipped the beast.

It doesn't matter what terminology you wish to use, new age or whatever, I don't think in terms of 'Boxes'.

I did not say there were other Gods. All I said was The Messiah will return and He will come for the purpose of ALL 'mankind'.

All mankind includes Muslims, Jews, Mormons, Hindu's and so on.

God is the God of ALL MANKIND, not just a few who 'think' that they and only they are the one's to be saved.
 
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It doesn't matter what terminology you wish to use, new age or whatever, I don't think in terms of 'Boxes'.

I did not say there were other Gods. All I said was The Messiah will return and He will come for the purpose of ALL 'mankind'.

All mankind includes Muslims, Jews, Mormons, Hindu's and so on.

God is the God of ALL MANKIND, not just a few who 'think' that they and only they are the one's to be saved.


Christ came once to die and the second time He will come as a judge. Your last sentence is entirely inaccurate. There is only one name given under heaven by which we can be saved and that name is Christ Jesus.

I AM the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me. -Jesus
 
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What doesn't compute is that if Calvinism is all right, then our theology doesn't matter, so why would one want to correct , admonish, invite, warn another by sharing scripture?
Yet tulip quotes scripture, that the foolishness of preaching is used.
I understand grace, just not how some explain it.
 
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What doesn't compute is that if Calvinism is all right, then our theology doesn't matter, so why would one want to correct , admonish, invite, warn another by sharing scripture?
Yet tulip quotes scripture, that the foolishness of preaching is used.
I understand grace, just not how some explain it.


Where on Earth did you see Calvinism in my posts?
 
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It doesn't matter what terminology you wish to use, new age or whatever, I don't think in terms of 'Boxes'.

I did not say there were other Gods. All I said was The Messiah will return and He will come for the purpose of ALL 'mankind'.

All mankind includes Muslims, Jews, Mormons, Hindu's and so on.

God is the God of ALL MANKIND, not just a few who 'think' that they and only they are the one's to be saved.

Yep. Don't be fooled. John said there will be antichrist (against Christ) not an all consuming AntiChrist (pronoun, capital A). People see what they want to see.

Most do not accept:

Luke 9
49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.


How can you be for Christ when you are against those who are for Christ as well? Mormons and JWs included?
 
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Christ came once to die and the second time He will come as a judge. Your last sentence is entirely inaccurate. There is only one name given under heaven by which we can be saved and that name is Christ Jesus.

I AM the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me. -Jesus

Yes, there is only the one person, the Messiah. I wasn't saying there will be other messiahs, I DID say that other religions will not see him as Jesus returned, but they will recognise Him from their own faith viewpoint.

IF their waiting for the 'True Man' for example, then they will see the returned Messiah, as being their own 'True Man'. But He will of course be the Messiah returned. The Messiah that Christianity is waiting for.

Once each faith recognise and accept this person as of being from God, then it is a little step for each faith to recognise that this person is also that special person that all faiths are waiting for.

When this happens then all mankind will be brought back under God's domain. Because that special person, (the Messiah in Christian terminology), will teach all faiths the same thing.

He will bring about a unity in all faiths.
 
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Yep. Don't be fooled. John said there will be antichrist (against Christ) not an all consuming AntiChrist (pronoun, capital A). People see what they want to see.

Most do not accept:

Luke 9
49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.


How can you be for Christ when you are against those who are for Christ as well? Mormons and JWs included?


Mormons and JW's do not worship the same Christ as I do. JW's don't worship the eternal, uncreated, fully God and fully man, Jesus as I do. Mormon Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer begotten by a God who was not always God through physical relations with Mary.
 
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Yes, there is only the one person, the Messiah. I wasn't saying there will be other messiahs, I DID say that other religions will not see him as Jesus returned, but they will recognise Him from their own faith viewpoint.

IF their waiting for the 'True Man' for example, then they will see the returned Messiah, as being their own 'True Man'. But He will of course be the Messiah returned. The Messiah that Christianity is waiting for.

Once each faith recognise and accept this person as of being from God, then it is a little step for each faith to recognise that this person is also that special person that all faiths are waiting for.

When this happens then all mankind will be brought back under God's domain. Because that special person, (the Messiah in Christian terminology), will teach all faiths the same thing.

He will bring about a unity in all faiths.



You're looking for the Antichrist then.
 
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You're looking for the Antichrist then.

Sounds that way.all roads lead to rome but only one ,Jesus the LORD,leads to life.
All religions cannot unite with someone with whom they are in direct
rebellion to .they may/will unite in their rebellion.but ultimatly bow the knee and be judged for that rebellion.hell fire awaits.
 
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Mormons and JW's do not worship the same Christ as I do. JW's don't worship the eternal, uncreated, fully God and fully man, Jesus as I do. Mormon Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer begotten by a God who was not always God through physical relations with Mary.

I hope you find Jesus Christ, son of the Father, then.
 
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No religion has the absolute complete truth, that is why Jesus tells us....

John 3:12
If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

John 16:12
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

Those things He will reveal when He does return.

Still it seems that such a revealing will not be heard, because there are those who will defy any 'new truth'.

They will go with the belief, that there is nothing new for them to hear. And for them the Messiah will have come like a 'thief in the night'.
 
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I hope you find Jesus Christ, son of the Father, then.


Thanks but I have already found the true Jesus of Scripture. The fully God fully man, second person of the Trinity, co-equal and co-eternal with the Father and Holy Spirit. The only one in who's name sins are forgiven and dead men are given life.

No religion has the absolute complete truth, that is why Jesus tells us

Your Scripture twisting is admirable but no. Christ claimed that He was the only way much like YWH did in Isaiah when He said that He was the only God there is (hint). Acts tells us that Christ is the only name given under Heaven by which we can be saved. That's pretty exclusive. Also your scripture about Jesus being rejected is out of context, He was talking about the Jews who rejected Him in fulfillment of prophecy.

Antichrist...catholic thing]

The Antichrist is a catholic thing? LOL. Methinks you need to learn some church history. But no it's also not made up. There is a spirit of antichrist (deception) and the big A Antichrist aka the Beast mentioned in Revelation.

Here's a small primer: Anti Christ and the Spirit of Anti Christ
 
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Thanks but I have already found the true Jesus of Scripture. The fully God fully man, second person of the Trinity, co-equal and co-eternal with the Father and Holy Spirit. The only one in who's name sins are forgiven and dead men are given life.



Your Scripture twisting is admirable but no. Christ claimed that He was the only way much like YWH did in Isaiah when He said that He was the only God there is (hint). Acts tells us that Christ is the only name given under Heaven by which we can be saved. That's pretty exclusive. Also your scripture about Jesus being rejected is out of context, He was talking about the Jews who rejected Him in fulfillment of prophecy.



The Antichrist is a catholic thing? LOL. Methinks you need to learn some church history. But no it's also not made up. There is a spirit of antichrist (deception) and the big A Antichrist aka the Beast mentioned in Revelation.

Here's a small primer: Anti Christ and the Spirit of Anti Christ

So. After 2000 years, another Revelations theory. Sorry. Revelations is not Gospel (good news) of Christ. No one can even come to terms who wrote it.

I know enough church history to know that the NT books were chosen more through politics (by Constantine) than by Holy Divine intervention. And I know enough to see the Father of love over the God of murder and jealousy.

Trinity. Beast. Antichrist. Barely mentioned over understanding spiritual truth through seeking knowledge from the Word, but you seem to be consumed with them.

It's what I expect from the Orthodox thought process.

BTW- I didn't post the second part of your rebuttal. That was Edgar.
 
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So. After 2000 years, another Revelations theory. Sorry. Revelations is not Gospel (good news) of Christ. No one can even come to terms who wrote it.


Who wrote it? John when he was exiled to Patmos. There are a few theories on the book of Revelation you're right there.




I know enough church history to know that the NT books were chosen more through politics (by Constantine) than by Holy Divine intervention. And I know enough to see the Father of love over the God of murder and jealousy.
No, the books were not chosen by Constantine please stop circulating this blatant, Dan Brown, falsity.

Here: The Canon of the New Testament, by F.F. Bruce
educate yourself.

Biblical


Beast. Antichrist.
Biblical

Barely mentioned over understanding spiritual truth through seeking knowledge from the Word, but you seem to be consumed with them.

It what I expect from the Orthodox.
Nice ad hominem at the end, should I take it you have nothing to respond with?
 
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