Hi.... Im a Jehovahs Witness

[timmytucker]

Hi guys and gals.

I'm a JW and I just wanted to say hi. I know we don't share some beliefs but I believe we can all be friends and enjoy some lovely spiritual food together.

 

[Keachian]

Would you like to do some Bible study?

 

[Bloved1]

Hello! Nice to meet you!

 

[ChrisHolland619]

Hello.

You are right; we don't believe the same things. I believe what the Bible says.

I can't see the reason for you posting this here except to spark a debate.

 

[blueberrymuffin]

And, I'm not a Baptist or JW. But welcome to the forums from another new member.

 

[motherprayer]

Hi guys and gals.

I'm a JW and I just wanted to say hi. I know we don't share some beliefs but I believe we can all be friends and enjoy some lovely spiritual food together.

Well welcome and bless you!

 

[crixus]

Hello.

You are right; we don't believe the same things. I believe what the Bible says.

I can't see the reason for you posting this here except to spark a debate.

I agree with your first point about the Bible, but not the second about a debate. He's just saying Hi, and I'm returning it. Hi.

 

[SoulBap6]

HI Timmytucker

I have a question is this what you believe so maybe I can understand where you are comming from ?

1. There is one God in one person, Make Sure of All Things, p 188.(See False God)
2. There is no Trinity, Let God be True, 2nd Ed., pp. 100-101; Should You Believe in the Trinity? p. 7; Watchtower, 2/1/1960, p. 94, Why Do You Believe in the Trinity? (See False Trinity)
3. The Holy Spirit is a force, not alive, Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985, pp. 406-407. (See False Holy Spirit)
4. The Holy Spirit is God's impersonal active force, The Watchtower, June 1, 1952,
   p. 24.
5. Jehovah's first creation was his 'only-begotten Son'. . . was used by Jehovah in
   creating all other things", Aid to Bible Understanding, p. 390-391.
6. Jesus was Michael the archangel who became a man, The Watchtower, May 15,
   1963, p. 307; The New World, 284.
7. Jesus was only a perfect man, not God in flesh, Reasoning from the Scriptures,
   1985, p. 306.
8. Jesus did not rise from the dead in his physical body, Awake! July 22, 1973, p. 4.
9. Jesus was raised "not a human creature, but a spirit." Let God be True, p. 276.
10. Jesus was born again, The Watchtower, Nov. 15, 1954, p. 682.
11. Jesus did not die on a cross but on a stake, Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985,
    p. 89-90.
12. Jesus began his invisible rule over the earth in 1914, The Truth Shall Make You Free,
    p. 300.
13. Jesus' ransom sacrifice did not include Adam.
14. "The man Adam is not included in those ransomed. Why not? Because he was a willful sinner, was justly sentenced to death, and died deservedly, and God would not reverse his judgment and give Adam life." Let God be True, p. 119, copyright 1946.;
15. "There was no hope for Adam or Eve because they willfully chose to disobey God. But what about their offspring, including us?" Jehovah’s Witnesses—Official Website: jw.org
16. Their church is the self-proclaimed prophet of God, The Watchtower, April 1,
    1972, p. 197.
17. They claim to be the only channel of God's truth, The Watchtower, Feb. 15,
    1981, p. 19.
18. Only their church members will be saved, The Watchtower, Feb, 15, 1979, p. 30.
19. Good works are necessary for salvation, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 1,
    p. 150, 152.
20. The soul ceases to exist after death, Let God be True, p. 59, 60, 67.
21. There is no hell of fire where the wicked are punished, Let God be True, p. 79, 80.
22. Only 144,000 Jehovah's Witness go to heaven, Reasoning from the Scriptures,
    1985, pp. 166-167, 361; Let God be True, p. 121.
23. Only the 144,000 Jehovah's Witness are born again. Reasoning from the
    Scriptures, 1985, p. 76.; Watchtower 11/15/54, p. 681.
24. Only the 144,000 may take communion.
25. Blood transfusions are a sin, Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985, pp. 72-73.
26. The Cross is a pagan symbol and should not be used, Reasoning from the
    Scriptures, 1985, p. 90-92.
27. Salvation is by faith and what you do, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 1, p.
    150,152.
28. It is possible to lose your salvation, Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985, p.
    358-359.
29. The universe is billions of years old, Your will Be Done on Earth, p. 43.
30. Each of the 6 creative days of God in Genesis 1, was 7000 years long.
    Therefore, Man was created toward the end of 42,000 years of earth's
    preparation, Let God be True, p. 168.
31. They also refuse to vote, salute the flag, sing the "Star Spangled Banner," or
    celebrate Christmas or birthdays. They are not allowed to serve in the armed
    forces.
32. Satan was entrusted with the obligation and charged with the duty of
    overseeing the creation of the earth, Children, p. 55

Timmy is this somewhat you believe?

 

[savedfromdistruction]

Hi guys and gals.

I'm a JW and I just wanted to say hi. I know we don't share some beliefs but I believe we can all be friends and enjoy some lovely spiritual food together.

Hello Timmytucker
The truth is we don't share any of the same beliefs. You believe that there is more than one God and they are not equal in power or position, while we believe there is one God in three persons all equal. You believe that you must work to be saved while we believe we are saved by grace through faith because of the finish work of Jesus Christ which produces good works. You believe in more then the bible and we believe only in the bible. So if there is to be spiritural food sharing it has to come from only the word of God the bible, not any other book or the changing of the bible. So are you ready to embrace that the bible alone contains the only truth through the word of God?
Here is some of the other false teaching that your system teaches;

Christ is not equal to God because He is a creature.
Christ was first of God's creations
Christ died on a stake, not a cross
Christ was raised from the dead as an immortal spirit person
Christ's presence is in spirit
Kingdom under Christ will rule earth in righteousness and peace
Kingdom brings ideal living conditions to earth
Earth will never be destroyed or depopulated
God will destroy present system of things in the battle at Har-Magedon
Wicked will be eternally destroyed
The human soul ceases to exist at death
Hell is mankind's common grave
Only a little flock of 144,000 go to heaven and rule with Christ
The 144,000 are born again as spiritual sons of God

Now if you are ready to learn the truth then I am willing to explain it to you, but other then that we have no fellowship according to scripture and command.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

 

[motherprayer]

He posted in fellowship. He has not tried to sway anyone's beliefs, and he has not been less than friendly.

The best way to get someone to see the light is to allow it to shine through you. Just sayin...

 

[savedfromdistruction]

He posted in fellowship. He has not tried to sway anyone's beliefs, and he has not been less than friendly.

The best way to get someone to see the light is to allow it to shine through you. Just sayin...

Not according to scripture. Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
He has been offered an opportunity to learn the truth and if he does not want that then there is no fellowship.

 

[motherprayer]

Not according to scripture. Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
He has been offered an opportunity to learn the truth and if he does not want that then there is no fellowship.

Ephesians 5:11 says have no fellowship with "works" which is a bit different from people.

Jesus spoke to and ministered to many people who were out of the realm of what was considered the "faithful" people of God.

There is a difference between asking someone if they would like to learn, and running down a list of all their beliefs before saying something like this:

Now if you are ready to learn the truth then I am willing to explain it to you, but other then that we have no fellowship according to scripture and command.

Can we help this person? Can we maybe guide him into the WHOLE truth? But how do we do that if we tell him that we refuse to talk to him unless he accepts everything WE believe?

The Pharisees mocked Jesus Christ for eating with sinners. When Jesus heard that, He said, "They that are whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. Go and learn what that means. I WILL HAVE MERCY AND NOT SACRIFICE. I AM COME NOT TO CALL THE "RIGHTEOUS" BUT SINNERS TO REPENTANCE."

 

[savedfromdistruction]

Ephesians 5:11 says have no fellowship with "works" which is a bit different from people.

Jesus spoke to and ministered to many people who were out of the realm of what was considered the "faithful" people of God.

There is a difference between asking someone if they would like to learn, and running down a list of all their beliefs before saying something like this:



Can we help this person? Can we maybe guide him into the WHOLE truth? But how do we do that if we tell him that we refuse to talk to him unless he accepts everything WE believe?

The Pharisees mocked Jesus Christ for eating with sinners. When Jesus heard that, He said, "They that are whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. Go and learn what that means. I WILL HAVE MERCY AND NOT SACRIFICE. I AM COME NOT TO CALL THE "RIGHTEOUS" BUT SINNERS TO REPENTANCE."

If he is looking for help fine. If not then;
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
He has been offered an opportunity to learn the truth and if he does not want that then there is no fellowship.

 

[motherprayer]

If he is looking for help fine. If not then;
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
He has been offered an opportunity to learn the truth and if he does not want that then there is no fellowship.

Let me ask you, have you been a Christian all your life?

 

[Eric Hibbert]

Let me ask you, have you been a Christian all your life?

I haven't. I became a Christian at age 22. I became a Christian because somebody loved me enough to tell me the truth, rather than loving themselves so much that they feared offending me and making themselves look bad.

When I was told that I was a sinner, it was hard news to hear but, without hearing it, I never would have understood the Gospel.

I've never understood the whole "let the light shine through you" or, even worse, "preach the Gospel at all times and use words only if necessary" version of Christianity.

All throughout the Bible, we see the Gospel preached, presented, defended, spoken, taught, etc, but we never see anybody say, "Hey, seeing what a wonderful person you are explains to me that I'm a sinner and face God's wrath on Judgement Day unless I repent of my sins and receive, by faith, Christ and His atonement on the cross on my behalf".

Even Jesus had to preach the law before He could preach the Gospel to the unregenerate in order to make them understand their need for the Gospel. How are we any different.

While I'm not sure that Savedfromdestruction is applying Eph 5:11 in the best way in this context, I do agree with the spirit of his post that, rather than having a superficial fellowship that is based more in a fear of offending someone, if we love Timmy, we will tell him the truth that the Watchtower cannot save him, that Jesus is not the Archangel Michael, and that Christ will save him if he repents and receives, by faith, Christ and His atonement on the cross on his behalf.

Proverbs 27:5-6 says: "Better is open rebuke than hidden love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; profuse are the kisses of an enemy."

 

[savedfromdistruction]

Let me ask you, have you been a Christian all your life?

That would be impossible. We have the command. I realize some like yourself reject the word for your own way, but I accept what the Lord says;Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
He has been offered an opportunity to learn the truth and if he does not want that then there is no fellowship.

 

[Andy S. Wright]

Hi guys and gals.

I'm a JW and I just wanted to say hi. I know we don't share some beliefs but I believe we can all be friends and enjoy some lovely spiritual food together.

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[No Swansong]

Wow all he did was say Hi. Hi Timothy.

 

[dcb1101]

Hello