“Sinners in the hands of an angry God”

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I read SITHOAAG for a Philosophy 101 class - and was asked to provide an in-depth analysis of it. While I no longer have that paper, I do remember that I was quite excited by the straight forward message of it and thought that the worlds could use a few more speakers of that nature.
 
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Are you suggesting that I have to meet him (physically) or attend one of his sermons (physically) in order to make a judgment on whether or not I find him credible as a Christian preacher? Maybe when the lights and cameras go off he tells his congregation the real truth and teaches them the "name it, claim it" secret handshake. I think not.

People judge the Pope, Luther, the Queen of England, presidential candidates et al without ever 1) meeting them or 2) walking in their shoes. I certainly don't need to extend Osteen a special benefit of the doubt. His preaching speaks for itself.
Greetings! I find Roman Catholic "preaching/teaching" to be rather "lacking"......And remember the "log and speck"......:angel:

John 8:6 This yet they said, trying Him, that they may be having to be accusing of Him. The yet Jesus down-stooping to the finger Wrote into the ground,
7 As yet they persisted asking Him. He up-bends and said toward them "The sinless-one of ye first the stone on her let be casting"!
8 And again down-stooping He Wrote into the ground.

Daniel 5:24 In-then before-him being-sent the-fingertip, that of the-hand and-the-writing, the-this, being-signified
25 And this the writing that being signified: 'Mene', Mene', T@qal , P@rac'.
26 This interpretation of matter-the account/Mene' he-accounted 'Elahh-the kingdom of the, and he balanced her'.
27 T@qal/weighing thou were weighed in the scales and thou were found lacking'.
 
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Furthermore have you ever seen a list of his sermon titles? it is a lesson in self improvement...Please show me where that is scripturally.

Wonder what Jesus would have titled His sermons:
1) How to go from fisherman to world changer in one easy step. - Matt. 4:18-22
2) How to be the greatest. - Mk. 9:33-37
3) Whoever is not against us is for us! - Mk. 9:38-41
4) The church of the self-righteous. - Matt. 23
5) How to lighten your load. - Matt. 11:25-30
6) Wanna be a success? - Matt. 5:3-12
7) Don't make me open up a can of whoop _ _ _ on you religious people! - Matt. 21:12
8) How to live life and love it. - John 10:10
9) How to get truly rich. - Matt. 6:20
10) Don't be troubled. - John 14

Don't get me wrong he may have the purest heart in the world and maybe he needs a real teacher to come along his side and mentor him and it would all be good, but in the meantime he is merely scratching itchy ears.

His tv ministry may not be the best to grow under, but I truly believe someone could come to Christ through it . . . many have.

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Are you suggesting that I have to meet him (physically) or attend one of his sermons (physically) in order to make a judgment on whether or not I find him credible as a Christian preacher?

Yes I am suggesting that. You only have half of the equation.

Maybe when the lights and cameras go off he tells his congregation the real truth and teaches them the "name it, claim it" secret handshake. I think not.

Like I said, my friend who went said that Osteen did preach another message to his congregation after the lights went out. I can't validate that in any way other than the word of my friend.

People judge the Pope, Luther, the Queen of England, presidential candidates et al without ever 1) meeting them or 2) walking in their shoes.

So, having never met you it's ok for me to judge you by your posts as an intolerant, judgmental elitist?

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Its important to know who your audience is. Or who you're directing your message to. Believers or unbelievers.
Jesus was preaching and teaching. There is a difference.

Preaching is generally directed towards the unbeliever and teaching for the believer.

A believer doesn't really need to hear a salvation message every service. Teaching would be the norm.

I agree! :)

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Yes I am suggesting that. You only have half of the equation.

That's absurd.



Like I said, my friend who went said that Osteen did preach another message to his congregation after the lights went out. I can't validate that in any way other than the word of my friend.

Sounds like a bit of charlatan, then.



So, having never met you it's ok for me to judge you by your posts as an intolerant, judgmental elitist?

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If you so choose. I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
 
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How the heck do you figure that? :confused:

Encouragement in worldly ambition and self-esteem are positive 20th century American messages, but they're not Christian messages.
 
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Encouragement in worldly ambition and self-esteem are positive 20th century American messages, but they're not Christian messages.
Didn't ya hear....RC Priests make the best Psychologists...;)
 
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Encouragement in worldly ambition and self-esteem are positive 20th century American messages, but they're not Christian messages.

I think LLoJ was asking how you could see Hagee as being a better preacher than Osteen.

BTW . . . so encouragement is not a Christian message?

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BTW . . . so encouragement is not a Christian message?

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Encouragement in what is the point. I don't recall Christ stating that by following him riches (of the material kind) would follow as a matter of course (or that we should be praying for them).
 
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Encouragement in what is the point. I don't recall Christ stating that by following him riches (of the material kind) would follow as a matter of course (or that we should be praying for them).
Exactly.
 
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