I watched enough.The negative comments I'm sure are coming from people who haven't
listened to the entire video.
A powerful video here, a message that needs to be restored to the
church. What this man talks about is something I want for my life.
The negative comments I'm sure are coming from people who haven't
listened to the entire video.
The mans nonsense makes our Lord an illegitimate child.
Are you ok with that ?
The woman that makes a deliberate choice to offer her virginity as a token of her fidelity on her wedding night, and continues to make the choice of fidelity throughout her marriage, is most likely going to have this same heart going into a marriage when her husband dies.
The teacher in the video emphasizes this deliberate choice of commitment, which is the essence of a 'virgin' heart. That is what I meant by my statement.
KatAutumn said:The speaker in the video is taking old marriage practices and laws that only pertained to the Jews and trying to apply them to modern-day marriage.
Legally, Mary and Joseph were as 'bound' in their betrothal as when theirThe mans nonsense makes our Lord an illegitimate child.
Are you ok with that ?
We don't see this in Matthew 19 when Jesus mentions the original intent of marriage (at the time He institutes His new covenant). Bringing virginity to marriage is not an 'old standard', it's a timeless one.
Amen !I don't have a problem with the concept of abstaining until marriage. I have a problem with the archaic belief that blood on the bedsheets is proof that the covenant has been recognized by God.
That is correct.Legally, Mary and Joseph were as 'bound' in their betrothal as when their
marriage was consummated.
Being CHASTE is a timeless standard....whether it be a woman married as a virgin or one married as a nonvirgin widow....BOTH are honorable before God.We don't see this in Matthew 19 when Jesus mentions the original intent of marriage (at the time He institutes His new covenant). Bringing virginity to marriage is not an 'old standard', it's a timeless one.
Tell me you are, Liz....it would help fill in some blanks.It seems like you're not. I'm curious as to why?
The video points out that virginity was expected of both men and women. I think if women embraced the sacredness of their virginity, and demanded it from the man they marry, the Body of Christ as a whole, would have a clearer understanding of the 'virgin spirit'.
Jesus is the example of a 'virgin spirit'... as His sole purpose was to fulfill the will of His Father. The heart of a virgin is focussed on it's beloved, sacrificially focused.
In the bolded section is where those with regrets will find hope. The man teaching was also very good at bringing this point out.Regret may also keep people from seeing how valuable a 'virgin spirit' truly is in the marital relationship. I think a person who purposely remained virgin, for the sake of offering this gift of fidelity to their spouse, shows more of a virginal heart than the one who may be virgin by happenstance... without a deliberate choice. By the same token, because of Jesus' covenant, a non-virgin who truly has a virgin's heart, can still be faithful in marriage.
Tell me you are, Liz....it would help fill in some blanks.
No, Im not ok with Jesus being born out of wedlock.
As studied as you are, Id figured youd be the first to comprehend the reason why yourself.
Ill let you ponder on the reason alone
Yes, a chaste widow can be honorable in a subsequent marriage... but Jesus is not referring to them when he states in Matthew 19 that a man leaves his mother and father and CLEAVES to his wife. This is clearly speaking of a virgin man marrying a virgin woman (leaving parents to do so).Huntingman said:Being CHASTE is a timeless standard....whether it be a woman married as a virgin or one married as a nonvirgin widow....BOTH are honorable before God.
You may have to take this up with God, Kat... it's a biblical concept spoken of in the OT.KatAutumn said:I don't have a problem with the concept of abstaining until marriage. I have a problem with the archaic belief that blood on the bedsheets is proof that the covenant has been recognized by God.