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notRusskiyMir · Sep 19, 2024

The tradition of the Greeks is that the first grandchildren are named after their grandparents, with their "middle name", being their father's name in the possessive tense - a patronymic. That accounts for 4 children, assuming there is a gender equivalent name. The baptismal sponsor is often allowed to pick the child's name, presumably as an inducement to serve as such. In large families, the child's name might be that of another relative or any other, including the saint's day of the child's birth or baptism. The grandparents are usually accounted for first, but not always.

As for American Greeks, some families preserve this tradition but often in the 3rd and 4th generation it is not followed. It is one of the first casualties of a mixed marriage. In the 2nd generation of US immigrants, with a strong sense of blending in, it was not uncommon for children to be given an "anglo" legal name that started with the same letter of the alphabet as the Greek name. At communion, the child would give her Greek Christian name. So, perhaps, Maxine for Magdalene. That didn't last long as mixed marriages began to predominate.

I think the Greek method of honoring the grandparents is a very good one. Better than the soap opera names. Of course soon, and likely now, the grandparents have soap opera names.

Yeah, this grinds my gears.

St_Worm2 · Sep 19, 2024

Hello again @RawStrength, the easiest way to create a PM/Private Message (aka "Start Conversation") is to click on a member's name or avatar and then click on "Start Conversation" at the bottom of the little window that pops up.

I believe that you need to have 25 messages and 10 likes to do so however, so as soon as you post 1 more message I believe that you will be able to create and/or participate in a PM with other members.

God bless you!!

--David
p.s. - we can just continue to talk to one another right here in your thread too, of course

lismore · Sep 19, 2024

ralliann said:
Yep, a decision would be made. Which is good and preferable to just restrict all together.

The threat to restrict would also provoke a choice. A choice between the faith and the infatuation. It could save a whole world of hurt. God Bless You

LoricaLady · Sep 19, 2024

Sep. 19, 2024 | Tajikistan
Christian Woman Beaten, Barely Escapes Forced Marriage
[10] prayers in [2] nations have been posted for Tajikistan Christians.

When Dinara came to faith in Christ, her Muslim family members beat her severely. Dinara fled from the abuse, but her family tricked her into returning by telling her that her grandfather was ill and urgently needed her attention. When she returned, she arrived to a room full of people waiting for her, including a Muslim man who was going to take her as his second wife. Dinara escaped and eventually fled to another nation, where she is working to start a new life. Read More.
Sep. 19, 2024 | Bhutan
Family Separated Due to Government Restrictions
[8] prayers in [2] nations have been posted for Christians in Bhutan.

A family involved in gospel outreach in the isolated and restricted nation of Bhutan has been separated as the government has refused them proper documentation because of their faith. In addition, the government has not allowed any of the family members to leave lockdown since the coronavirus pandemic began in 2019. They request prayer that the Lord would intercede in their difficult situation. Read More.
Sep. 19, 2024 | Nigeria
Kidnapped Pastor's Life in Danger
[8] prayers in [2] nations have been posted for Pastor Paul.

Nigerian church leaders request urgent prayer for Pastor Paul Musa. In March 2023, Pastor Paul and his wife, Ruth, were abducted from their home in northern Nigeria's Borno State by militants belonging to Boko Haram, a radical Islamist group. The kidnappers posted video of Pastor Musa in late June 2024 and threatened to kill him if their demands were not met. Church leaders worry that the Islamists may have already killed Ruth. Read More.

FreeinChrist · Sep 19, 2024

ADVISOR HAT

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RileyG · Sep 19, 2024

Awful.

Vambram · Sep 19, 2024

HARK! said:
The former Border Patrol official responsible for securing nearly 1,000 miles of America’s frontier has charged that the Biden-Harris administration intentionally covered up the ongoing migrant crisis.

Ex-San Diego Sector Chief Agent Aaron Heitke told members of the House Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday that the White House repeatedly tried to “quiet the border-wide crisis” by shielding information from the press and concealing crossings by dangerous migrants with terror ties.

“I had to release illegal aliens by the hundreds each day into communities who could not support them,” testified Heitke, who retired in summer 2023 and appeared voluntarily before the panel.

Biden-Harris border official claims cover-up as he was allegedly ordered to hide release of migrants

Aaron Heitke said that administration officials asked him to move more than 2,000 migrants apprehended in between the two US-Mexico border fences spanning Southern California “out of the sigh…

nypost.com

I listened to some of Heike's testimony today to the House Homeland Security Committee. Nothing that I heard surprised me at all. His testimony gives proof that the Biden administration and the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security are hiding the facts and truth about the massive illegal immigration. The Biden administration and the Democratic Party doesn't want Americans to know the facts and truth about this.
Why????

Prospector · Sep 19, 2024

I'm not sure if Jesus felt fear, but I'm sure he had perfect love

1 John 4:18

New King James Version

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.

JimR-OCDS · Sep 19, 2024

2/3rds of the Catholic population live in 2nd and 3rd world nations. Those in Western Europe and North America only make up the
other 1/3rd. It has been this way for the pats 40 years or more.

So, when the Pope speaks, he is often speaking for the entire Catholic Church, not just us in the West.

Perhaps those of us in the US will have a better understanding of when and how the Pope speaks.

tonychanyt · Sep 19, 2024

At the end of the civil war against Benjamin, Jg 20:

46 On that day twenty-five thousand Benjamite swordsmen fell, all of them valiant fighters. 47 But six hundred of them turned and fled into the wilderness to the rock of Rimmon, where they stayed four months.

Only a remnant of 600 Benjamin men survived.

48 The men of Israel went back to Benjamin and put all the towns to the sword, including the animals and everything else they found. All the towns they came across they set on fire.

Did they kill the women and children?

Ellicott, Benson, Keil and Delitzsch, Matthew Poole, and Gill all thought so.

Jg 21:

15 The people grieved for Benjamin, because the Lord had made a gap in the tribes of Israel. 16 And the elders of the assembly said, “With the women of Benjamin destroyed, how shall we provide wives for the men who are left?

They killed the men, women, and children in Jabesh-Gilead (Manassah) but spared 400 young virgins (Jg 21:12) to be wives for the Benjamin survivors. The others caught 200 daughters of Shiloh when they danced during a yearly feast to the Lord (Jg 21:21).

Did they kill women and children in the civil war against Benjamin?

Yes, the tribe of Benjamin was almost exterminated during this civil war.

Richard T · Sep 19, 2024

Unqualified said:
There is a silver lining. Ukraine is hanging in there. They are now attacking Russia. There are probably life saving miracles on both sides.

I haven’t prayed for Ukraine in a while. Why don’t they just give up to the bully. Their country is already destroyed and the people displaced. I put that into a prayer. I think they are showing a lot of outrage though which is good.

War is awful though but it continues to the end. What about Israel I pray for peace there and for Israel to win. I hate war, I’ve seen what it did to our men in viet nam. Didn’t like it one bit. Jesus will end war after Armageddon with a final victory. Sure hope trump doesn’t start a war. It’s awful but there will be wars and rumors of wars.

Would you give up your home and state? Only part of the territory is enough for now but russia insists that ukraine could never join NATO. So basically you are giving up your security for the future of the whole nation.

keras · Sep 19, 2024

Barraco said:
, I anticipate that Hezbollah’s leader Hassan Nasrallah will soon be eliminated by Israel.

But what the Bible Prophets say, is that Israels leaders will be gone and incompetent leaders will take over:

Isaiah 3:1-9 The Lord is about to strip Judah of every prop and support, all of their leaders, generals and counsellors will lose their positions. I shall appoint inexperienced people to positions of authority. Oppression and arrogance will stalk the Land and there will be severe shortages of food and water.
Judah is brought low, for in word and deed, they defy the Lord. The look on their faces testifies against them. Like Sodom, they parade their sins. Woe betide them, they have earned the disaster that will strike them.

Isaiah 3:10-11 Happy are the righteous. All goes well with them. Woe to the wicked, disaster is upon them. My people, those who guide you are leading you astray.

Isaiah 3:13-26 The Lord stands up to judge His people. He opens the indictment against the elders and leaders; it is you who have ruined My vineyard. You have crushed My people and oppressed the poor.
You women of Zion; I will take away your finery, instead of coifed hair, you will be bald.
Your men will fall by the sword of the Lord, as in battle. Judah’s defences are stripped bare, laid flat to the ground.
[Isaiah 22:2 & 8…your slain did not fall by the sword, as in battle….and the mainstays of Judah’s defences are removed.]

Isaiah 4:1-2 On that Day, seven women will ask one man for help and support.
On that Day, the sprouts that the Lord has grown will become glorious in their beauty and the Land will be fruitful, the pride of the survivors in the Land. Amos 9:13-15
[in other trans. “sprouts or plant’ is rendered ‘Branch’ and assumed to refer to Jesus, but that is wrong and the “sprouts’’, nurtured by the Lord are His faithful Christian people, as is clear from the context.]

Isaiah 4:3-6 Those who remain in Jerusalem, whose survival was decreed, will be called holy. Isaiah 6:13, Isaiah 29:1-8, Zechariah 13:8-9, Romans 9:27
When the Lord washes away the filth of Jerusalem by a spirit of judgement burning like fire, He will create a cloud by day and a flame by night over Mt Zion, to be a covering for shade and shelter. [In the same way as for ancient Israel]

Isaiah 10:17-23 The Light of Israel will become a fire, their Holy One, a flame: that in a single day will burn up and consume His enemies. Malachi 4:1&3, 2 Peter 3:7
The forests and pastures will be destroyed, only a few trees will remain. Joel 1:19-20
On that Day, the remnant of Israel, the survivors of Jacob [all 12 tribes] will set their allegiance solely on the Lord.

A remnant will return, a remnant of Jacob, will return to God, their strength.
Israel, though you are as the sands of the sea – only a remnant will return. The Lord will carry out the destruction decreed upon all of the Holy Land.
Reference, REB, NIV, KJV, some verses condensed.

Judah will be judged and the entire Middle East region will be virtually depopulated by a terrible fire from the sun and only a holy remnant will be saved. I am convinced that this Bible passage tells of events soon to happen, the coming Day of judgement onto all the world and His people; a remnant of Jacob [from all 12 tribes, plus those grafted in by reason of righteousness] going to live in all of the Promised Land, before the Return of Jesus. Ezekiel 40 to 48, Rev. 7.

Jo555 · Sep 19, 2024

bethann211974 said:
I dream of three men chasing or stalking me. They look like men but are not. Three is the number of God, and to mock Him, Satan uses it too.

Sounds like a "heads up". No fear. Rebuke in Jesus name and the blood of Jesus over you.

Can you elaborate more on the 3s. Very interested.

Always in His Presence · Sep 19, 2024

For those interested in Calvinist beliefs I offer the following two links

What is Calvinism? - Understanding the Beliefs & Doctrine

Calvinism is a denomination of Protestantism that adheres to the theological traditions and teachings of John Calvin and other preachers of the Reformation-era. Learn about the Calvinist history, beliefs, and social and political influences.

www.christianity.com

TULIP: 5-Point Calvinism Explained

The five points of Calvinism can be explained using the acronym TULIP. Understand the set of religious principles behind John Calvin's theology.

www.learnreligions.com

keras · Sep 19, 2024

parousia70 said:
Marking this post for a revisit on 1/1/32 to see where you move the goalposts this time. I must say it is impressive how you never tire of moving the goalposts after each failed prediction.

Well, I don't worry, as everything will be changed when the Sixth Seal; Day of fiery wrath strikes.

The truth is: the Seventh Seal is simply a time gap of about 20 earth years, which I see as extending past the glorious Return.

The Lord is not slow in the fulfilment of His plans.

boughtwithaprice · Sep 19, 2024

Miss Shelby said:
BWAP. Good for you and thanks for sharing that. I fully expect to be fired at some point for not participating in the insanity of using multiple pronouns.

Stand your ground. You do not have to been mean or cause a scene. Just call them by their proper name and refuse pronouns. I was assigned to help remove the breasts of 19yr old girl and I refused.
They accommodated me but were not happy.

They were probably setting me up to fire me for my beliefs, so they assigned me to assist with a gall bladder in a woman that wanted to be called a man’s name. Probably to see what I would do.
I am a physician, and everyone deserves health care regardless of other issues. That is human dignity and their right as created in the image of God. I would not refuse to help.
When taking to her, I used her requested name but did not communicate so as to use pronouns.
When giving report, I said she without thinking about it. I was not corrected and did not apologize. My brain was just not thinking he, when she had full breasts and only a hint of a beard. I gave her anethesia just as I would for anyone else and had no problem
The question then becomes, if I say everyone deserves healthcare regardless of who they are, how do I justify refusing to assist in abortions, sterilizations and transgender surgery? Are not those procedures “healthcare”?

I thought about it, and it came to me, they certainly are not. Healthcare enhances the health of the patient without question, or at least it is intended to enhance health.

Abortion ends the life of a human being, tubal ligation and vasectomies mutilate a healthy body for pure pleasure. Transgender surgery is also a mutilation of a healthy body.

They are called healthcare because the advocates “believe” it will make their life better. Others disagree. Wait a minute, what do we do with other’s beliefs?
The US constitution says that Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of a religion. By calling these procedures “healthcare”, the government is effectively establishing a religion and commanding universal adherence. That is unconstitutional.! These procedures are religious rituals designed to give one faith preference over another. The US constitution says that we cannot do that, but we are being duped into doing just that.
What does that mean? Well I have standing because I was prevented from practicing my profession because I declined to participate in another religion. If I could find a lawyer willing to take the case to the Supreme Court, I would argue that these procedures be removed from all institutions which receive federal funding, based on the establishment clause

We have freedom of religion, so these religious procedures should be taken out of hospitals and placed in religious settings

All these states are passing these laws of their constitutional right to abortion. I say ok, do that, but it is illegal for you to use federal funds to do it or even state funds, or allow them to be performed in secular institutions. Go to your own house of worship to perform your religious rituals and pay for them yourselves

Insurance cannot be required to cover abortion or birth control. Those that want it will have to get a religious policy, or would you like your insurance money to go to my parish, so I may continue to receive the Eucharist and Penance?
Oh you object? Now you know how I feel

Far fetched? Maybe, but the argument is sound. These procedures are healthcare only because people believe they are healthcare. That makes them religious rituals and not constitutional for the government to establish them and demand universal obedience

This will be my testimony in federal court if asked on the stand

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xser88 · Sep 19, 2024

Amid Trump’s Incendiary Rhetoric, Radicals on Both Sides of Political Divide See Violence as Justified

Trump has used more incendiary language than Democrats, but he is the one who has been targeted.
Polls show that most voters fear political violence if their own candidate wins in November and the other side refuses to accept the result.

Robert A. Pape, a political scientist who studies political violence, has little doubt that former President Trump has made more incendiary comments than Vice President Kamala Harris.

The problem, however, is what his research tells him: Both sides of the political spectrum have radical elements that see violence as justified if it means stopping Trump from gaining power (10% of adults) or making sure Trump returns to the White House (7%).

But the lines Republicans are drawing for Democrats is confounding at times because they include criticizing Democrats for quoting Trump’s own words. Scott Jennings, a Trump supporter who regularly appears on CNN, went after Harris on Monday.

“I mean, she repeats it herself. ‘Trump will be a dictator on Day 1,’” Jennings said. “I mean, this country fights dictators.”

The problem? Trump, who has repeatedly threatened retribution against political opponents if elected, was asked in a December interview in Iowa by Fox News host Sean Hannity whether he would abuse his power if he goes back to the White House.

“Except for Day One...,” Trump said. “We’re closing the border and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.”

Ari Fleischer, a former press secretary to President George W. Bush, made a similar critique in an L.A. Times interview Tuesday, calling out Harris for repeating Trump’s 2022 plea for “termination” of parts of the Constitution to put him back in office. Fleischer did not appear to realize Harris was quoting Trump when she made those remarks. But when pressed, he said Harris needed to use more context to avoid raising tensions.

Amid Trump's incendiary rhetoric, radicals on both sides of political divide see violence as justified

Both sides of the spectrum have radical elements that see political violence as justified, an expert says.

www.latimes.com

Clare73 · Sep 19, 2024

d taylor said:
-It is when faith is defined as obeying. An example that is often used, is the. If you do not sit in the chair, then you do not really believe it will support you and not collapse.

There is no test to as whether a person has believed in Jesus.

One test of saving faith is obedience in one's life after salvation by faith only.

Obedience does not prove true faith, but no obedience proves no true faith.

FreeinChrist · Sep 19, 2024

ADVISOR HAT

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Jo555 · Sep 19, 2024

Excellent! Thank you.

Hoping2 · Sep 19, 2024

Joseph G said:
Thanks Hoping, especially for prayers. Would you mind if I pm for some advice?

God bless!

Please do !

com7fy8 · Sep 19, 2024

"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:31-32)

From this, I see that there are emotions to put away. It does not say to keep them and "channel" their energy for what is good.

After all >

"the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God." (in James 1:20)

So, I see, if an emotion is not doing us good, we need how God is able to remove it . . . not keep it and try to channel it or negotiate with it. Just get rid of it!!

And instead, "be kind" . . . "tenderhearted". And forgive, "even as God in Christ forgave you."

If we read how God wants us to forgive, right away we can see that we need to end our relationships with certain emotions. We need how God is able to change us emotionally so we are always ready to forgive generously, like Jesus on the cross > Jesus *prayed* >

"Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do." (in Luke 23:34)

There is more we can share about this. Others are welcome to join in.

Clare73 · Sep 19, 2024

I find the those books to lack the power and majesty of style of the canonical books.

FreeinChrist · Sep 19, 2024

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