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Otherwise, Heaven would be filled with riff raff.
I've had that conversation with @Aman777 before, hence my post #2359. He has no response other than "But the KJV says it, so it must be right."Disclaimer: I'm nothing more than a complete noob when it comes to things like this, but decided to do my best at examining the grammar and syntax here.
There's no pronouns in the text. The word is לְמִינָהּ l'mynah. The word myn means "kind" or "sort", the lamed prefix makes the word prepositional, "of" or "to", and the suffix heh functions similar to the English suffix -ward. Hence the translation "after its kind" or "after their kind" or "after his kind". The pronoun is added in translation for the ease of English speakers.
Whatever gobbledy-nonsense butchering of the text you're trying to accomplish here is, and always has been, beyond absurd.
The only reason I'm even bothering responding to this post is to maybe provide some semblance of reason.
-CryptoLutheran
If you meant 'God hides His Truth...' you should note that your statement is absurd; if non-believers reject 'His Truth', then it clearly isn't hidden. If God hides 'His Truth' then non-believers can't reject it. You've invented an oxymoronic version of GWIMW (God Works In Mysterious Ways).God his His Truth in Genesis from those who do not believe Him and reject His Truth. Otherwise, Heaven would be filled with riff raff.
We've already had this discussion several times.
For example, everything you claim about "Adam's world/firmament/whatever" has no scientific support nor even any apparent Biblical support.
It seems to be little more than an invention of your fervent imagination. Even other creationists don't agree with you.
I thought you said your view was entirely consistent with science, cause this...is...not. even. close.
Repeat after me: "And God said, Let the earth bring forth"
We don't need any more than that to refute your claim.
Disclaimer: I'm nothing more than a complete noob when it comes to things like this, but decided to do my best at examining the grammar and syntax here.
There's no pronouns in the text. The word is לְמִינָהּ l'mynah. The word myn means "kind" or "sort", the lamed prefix makes the word prepositional, "of" or "to", and the suffix heh functions similar to the English suffix -ward. Hence the translation "after its kind" or "after their kind" or "after his kind". The pronoun is added in translation for the ease of English speakers.
Whatever gobbledy-nonsense butchering of the text you're trying to accomplish here is, and always has been, beyond absurd.
The only reason I'm even bothering responding to this post is to maybe provide some semblance of reason.
-CryptoLutheran
I've had that conversation with @Aman777 before, hence my post #2359. He has no response other than "But the KJV says it, so it must be right."
God tells us that His people have NONE understanding. Why do you study the thoughts/theology of people who called for the crucifixion of our God?
The KJV is the most read of any other version and therefore, a more correct interpretation since it is the one picked out by God Himself, unless you can refute that historic Truth.
If you meant 'God hides His Truth...' you should note that your statement is absurd; if non-believers reject 'His Truth', then it clearly isn't hidden. If God hides 'His Truth' then non-believers can't reject it. You've invented an oxymoronic version of GWIMW (God Works In Mysterious Ways).
In any case, it doesn't resolve your problem - Genesis is either not in agreement with science, or it's not literal.
So God's people don't understand anything, and studying what the Bible actually says is bad. Therefore just believe what you say because God decided that Aman777 is the only person to have ever walked the earth to understand the real occult secrets hidden in the Bible. Simon Magus and Basiledes would be proud.
-CryptoLutheran
Scripture. Genesis is God's Literal Truth which means that the supposed scientific truth of today needs to be corrected.
OK; so Genesis doesn't agree with science, and so requires science to change. That's the logical opposite of what you were saying earlier.I meant God hid His Truth from unbelievers since only the people of the last days have the increased knowledge to understand Scripture. Genesis is God's Literal Truth which means that the supposed scientific truth of today needs to be corrected.
I thought you claimed that Scripture is in agreement with science. If science needs to be 'corrected' then clearly they can't be agreement.
OK; so Genesis doesn't agree with science, and so requires science to change. That's the logical opposite of what you were saying earlier.
The only reason to listen to me is that my view of Genesis agrees in every way with recently discovered Scientific Facts,
Amen?
But you claim that Genesis agrees with science that all animals came from water. How do you account for these animals that were formed from the earth?To whom was God the Trinity speaking? Was it His Son YHWH/Jesus? Of course it was and Jesus took the ground and molded it into the common ancestors. Did you think God just poofed living creatures into being? Notice also that Adam, who was made 2 Days earlier, named the creatures Jesus made.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Jesus IS LORD.
You don't get it, do you? I've demonstrated in a previous thread that there is no His/Their/Its in Hebrew and that those pronouns were inserted by translators. Your whole exegesis is based on a meaningless linguistic quirk.Birds of a feather with a Christian? How can I refute your agnostic views now?
While the American masses might reach for KJV, biblical scholars use the NRSV. Do you know why?The KJV is the most read of any other version and therefore, a more correct interpretation since it is the one picked out by God Himself, unless you can refute that historic Truth.
So here you are saying that a Genesis day is not literally a day, but an age, of 4.6 billion years.Do the math. The big bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day/Age. Genesis 2:4
We live today at the end of the present 6th Day/Age at Genesis 1:27.
3 Days to God equals 13.8 billion years in man's time. Divide 3 into 13.8 billion and you find that each Day/Age is some 4.6 billion years in man's time. Believe it or not, many do not know that today is the last Day/Age of the creation. EVERY man lives and dies on the present 6th Day, the Day of Salvation, according to Jesus. 2Co 6:2 and Isa 49:8.
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