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Yeah, she's pretty well known now. Her videos became pretty popular. When I saw her at the FreedomWorks both, I told her I like her videos. She looked up at my name tag and said: "Thanks Collin, I know we're Facebook friends." I couldn't believe she remembered me. Later that day she even posted on my wall about how nice it was meeting me.

If a girl puts her arm around your back to take a picture it's completely acceptable to do the same.
Haha. I wanted to, but chickened out. I think every straight male libertarian has a crush on her.

Also do you want us knowing your full name?
I don't really care. I'm friends with MacFall and Izdaari on Facebook so they know my full name anyway.
 
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Haha. I wanted to, but chickened out. I think every straight male libertarian has a crush on her.
Well, she has to be better than S.E. Cupp, and probably a lot smarter. Cupp didn't appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I don't really care. I'm friends with MacFall and Izdaari on Facebook so they know my full name anyway.
Wish i could get in on that action, but i refuse to do facebook. As time goes on, the wisdom of that decision is becoming apparent.
 
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Haha. I wanted to, but chickened out. I think every straight male libertarian has a crush on her.
Does that mean I'm not straight? I shouldn't go all 2/10, I'd have a conversation with her over coffee.

I used to have the same problem. I'm sure you know this and it's easier said then done, but act natural. Good time to practice is with attractive girls you're not going to date. That's how I largely got over my nerves. The cost benefit is massively lopsided.
 
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Well, she has to be better than S.E. Cupp, and probably a lot smarter. Cupp didn't appear to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.
True, but Cupp is so hot. What do you think about Michelle Fields?

Julie acts silly and goofy in her videos. Some haters say that proves she's stupid, but really it's just part of her schtick. Though she didn't say a whole lot (she is pretty shy and was sick when this took place), her and Amanda Billyrock did great in this debate:

PoliPop All-Girl Throwdown! - YouTube

She also knows a lot about the Federal Reserve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6SrCuvYoZg

Wish i could get in on that action, but i refuse to do facebook. As time goes on, the wisdom of that decision is becoming apparent.
I was always very resistant to Facebook. But as I've been trying to get over my depression and social anxiety, I decided to start out talking in a format I'm comfortable with, namely the Internet. So far it's worked out very well for me.

Does that mean I'm not straight? I shouldn't go all 2/10, I'd have a conversation with her over coffee.
If you don't have a crush on her, then you'd be the first straight libertarian guy I've seen that doesn't. Doesn't really matter though because Julie's engaged.

Thanks for that. I recently ran into a situation where I was asking for this kind of thing: http://www.christianforums.com/t7684540/
 
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Some quotes I recently came bye

Your Vote Doesn't Count - Reason.com

- Abraham Lincoln in his 1858 Debate with Senator Stephen Douglas

– Abraham Lincoln
 
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I was really impressed by this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv5gBFqzQfY

A quote from Jeffrey Tucker

Observations on Romney v. Obama Also a thread toward (Right-)Libertarianism decided to pop up... I'm really lack motivation to enter that one.
 
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I figured this was worth breaking my CF hermitage to tell you guys about.

My father and I went to a lady's house to do some electrical work, and while we were in her basement we saw some very large and rather fancy homemade Ron Paul signs. So we asked her about them, and she said that her father had made them. She called her father and told him that she had discovered a Ron Paul supporter in the basement.

He made his way down the stairs - an old man, but obviously in good heath; 88 years old, with wispy white hair and a Mr. Rodgers-style sweater vest. He shook my hand, and we talked a bit about Paul and the election. He was interested that I had supported Paul in the previous election as well, since that was before the Campaign for Liberty and End the Fed kicked off. So I mentioned that I got into Ron Paul because of my interest in the Austrian School, rather than the other way around.

His face lit up like a beacon, and his daughter rolled her eyes with a "oh boy, here we go" sort of look. He said, "You're an Austrian? At your age?" and went off on how much he loved Mises and "what's-his-name, Mises' student who wrote that really big book - oh you know about Rothbard too?"

"Yes, I own and have read Man, Economy, and State."

"How about that German guy who was Rothbard's pupil, wrote a book about democracy that I have but I can't remember the title."

"Democracy: The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe. Yes I own that one too."

At this point he was beaming from ear to ear. Basically, he had no idea just how popular Austro-libertarianism is with younger people. He can use a computer just fine (he's printed off loads of pamphlets about Paul, the Austrian business cycle theory, and free market justice and defense theory) and he knows his way around the internet. He subscribes to Lew Rockwell and a few of the Mises fellow's blogs. But he still seemed extremely encouraged to know that those ideas will continue through our generation.

We talked for a good hour and he kept handing me pamphlets he'd made. Some of them are really good. One is a presentation of Franz Oppenheimer's dichotomy of the political vs economic means, and another some Bastiat stuff, designed for distribution among high school students. I think I'm going to give it to some young friends of mine to spam their peers with. >:}

It was a very cool experience, just randomly meeting a hardcore Austro-libertarian like that. Sometimes it's easy to think one is alone in real life, even though they may have a strong network of like-minded friends on the internet.
 
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Love the story.

Just because some of us are old, don't assume that we buy into the two party deception.

You can find many of the same views in old line Republicans such as Robert Taft and Ezra Taft Benson.

i doubt that you'd agree with them on all issues, but the root that has sprouted in Ron Paul is discernable.

i can't wait to see the 'branches and leaves' come into existence.
 
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In light of some of the recipients of the Nobel Prize in other fields, One must wonder if having the prize is an endoursement or curse.

That the prize is somewhat more political than merit based is more than slightly questionable.
 
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In light of some of the recipients of the Nobel Prize in other fields, One must wonder if having the prize is an endoursement or curse.

That the prize is somewhat more political than merit based is more than slightly questionable.
Also true. My point was just that Krugman having one doesn't prove his brand of left-wing statist Keynesianism is correct, as he seems to think... unless he wants to concede that Chicago, Austrian, Public Choice, etc. are all just as correct... and I don't think he'd go for that.
 
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i have to tell you that i've never understood why the fact that Keynesian economic theory is IMMORAL has never made more traction before the present emergence of Ron Paul's two Presidential campaigns.

It is based on a premise of theft in that manipulating the value of the currency takes away the purchasing power of that currency.

The irrefutable counterargument to Keynesian economists is to simply repeat over and over...Thou Shall Not Steal!!! until they get it.

Funny, wars and civil strife start over such things. One would think that would be recognised by now.
 
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Yes, it's immoral... but that's a philosophical and/or religious argument, not an economic one.
 
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The tree seems to be growing very well. At LPAC I saw a lot of people who are either running for office or are campaigning for libertarians in the GOP at the local and state levels. I was probably one of the younger one's there, but there were a lot of people in their mid-to-late twenties doing grassroots work. I myself am going to try and get involved in Young Americans for Liberty and might even do some volunteer work the Johnson campaign.

Speaking of LPAC, they're starting to put up the videos from the convention. Be sure and check out Jerry Doyle's when its up, it was hilarious.

Ron Paul at LPAC 2012 - YouTube
 
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Yes, it's immoral... but that's a philosophical and/or religious argument, not an economic one.
My usual reply to that comment is to thank them for conceding that the Keynesian economic model is immoral.

That's the only argument one need make, really. Thou Shall Not Steal is a Sine Qua Non of any society. It is a necessary (but not sufficient) condition for the existence of that society.

i know of no society that continued to exist after stealing from it's citizens. It appears that the government of Zimbabwe will soon deteriorate, and that's the only example i can think of at the moment.
 
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I forgot to post this before, but last Tuesday I went down to the OSU campus for my first Young Americans for Liberty meeting. They seem fairly unorganized, but this first meet-up of the OSU semester was for the purpose of watching and mocking the second presidential debate. There were about seven other guys there (no girls of course, though one would show up pretty late) and they seemed nice enough.

Since everyone else there is an OSU student and I'm not, they told me that Nick Gillespie of Reason was actually on campus. He had given a talk on free markets earlier that day and was having a debate party at a local restaurant. I was taken a back by this, but we walked down to the restaurant to watch the debate. Gillespie wasn't there I when I first came in, but when he did he took a seat just several feet from where I sat. Whenever I looked over at him, he was buried in his in laptop and didn't seem to even be paying attention to Obama and Romney's blabbering--I don't blame him.

I thought someone said he was gonna give some commentary after the debate was over, but he didn't. Before leaving I did go up to him, shook his, hand, and had a brief chat. He was pretty cool. And I was able to get one decent picture on my phone.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/176783_207214196077533_1176830317_o.jpg
 
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