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Wow! A great paragraph on our relationship with God and how we should approach Him!

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daveleau

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I have a sister-in-law who believes that everything we want we can get through prayer, no matter what it is, irregardless of His will. I wholly disagree. This paragraph made me think of her and others with this new-held belief.

From Erickson's "Christian Theology" Ch 14- What God is Like, p326

"If we have fully understood who and what God is, we will see him as the supreme being. We will make him the Lord, the one who is to be pleased and whose will is to be done. This reminder is needed in our day, for we have a tendency to slip from a theocentric to an anthropocentric ordering of our religious lives. This leads to what might be called "inverted theology." Instead of regarding God as our Lord, whose glory is the supreme value and who will is to be done, we regard him as our servant. He is expected to meet all of our perceived needs and to answer to our standards of what is right and wrong. We need to learn from Samuel, whose response when the Lord called him was, "Speak, for your servant is listening" (1 Sam 3:10). He did not see this as an opportunity to pour out his concerns to the Lord saying, "Listen, Lord, your servant speaks." When we adopt the latter stance, we in effect make ourselves God. We presume to know what is right and what is best. In doing so, we take upon ourselves a great responsibility: to guide our own lives. But, it is God who knows what is best in the long run. He is the almighty and loving Lord. He has created us, not we him, and we exist for his glory, not he for ours. If we truly understood God's nature, then with Jesus our first concern in prayer will not be for the granting of our desires. It will rather be, "Hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." "
 
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And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. And if ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it" (Jn. 14:13-14). "Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full" (Jn. 16:24).

A lot of people take those verses out of context thinking whatever we ask we will receive especially material things. If we ask for things that are *HIS* desires we will receive them.
 
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Wow! Wonderful! I needed that reminder!

God is not our cosmic vending machine, he is the awesome creator of our very being and owns everything about us, even each breath we take. We are not his god, although we act like he is our servant sometimes.

Thanks!
 
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I know I often have to stop when I am praying because I go straight from "Dear Lord" into a laundry list of requests. I try not to do this and try to begin by thanking Him for everything and then listening.
Glad you guys were as blessed as I was by reading this.
 
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Thankyou for sharing that, "we regard him as our servant"

I need a reminder to be still, that he has thoughts of peace toward us and His will is perfect, to our expected end. That my attitude should be surrender and trust.

Thankyou


James
 
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sunday school...

green - yes
yellow - mabey / wait
red - no

thats really all i remember...i really aint a morning person...
come to think of it, im not really a night person either. i understood "Hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven." too many other words i dont understand though put together in an arrangment of sentences to small for tired eyes to see...
 
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Excellent post! When I pray, I go to Him as I would to my earthly father. I say, "Daddy, I know right now I'm going through something my finite mind cannot comprehend, but I know you will not put me through more than I can bear so I ask that your will be done and not my own". Jesus Christ should be our best friend, the lover of our soul, our closest confidante, the source of our greatest love. Would you go to your greatest love and demand they do X, Y, and Z and mask your selfish motives by using big fancy words and "thee's" and "thou's"? No!
 
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There's a scripture to back this up, about not always getting what one wants: (I will post it in KJV and other versions as well...)

and in a modern version:

That should support what you all are saying here.


CIS


P.S. and I suppose someone is going to disagree with it, as always, I won't mention her name, as she likes to disagree with everything I say. (you know who you are..)
 
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