Can someone explain to me this parable, I cant seem to grasp it's concept.
Thanks,
Bro. Mark
Thanks,
Bro. Mark
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NASB - Matthew 9:14-17
Then the disciples of John came to Him, asking, "Why do we and the Pharisees fast, but Your disciples do not fast?"
And Jesus said to them, "The attendants of the bridegroom cannot mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them, can they? But the days will come when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and then they will fast.
But no one puts a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment; for the patch pulls away from the garment, and a worse tear results.
Nor do people put new wine into old wineskins; otherwise the wineskins burst, and the wine pours out and the wineskins are ruined; but they put new wine into fresh wineskins, and both are preserved."
NASB - Luke 5:33-39
And they said to Him, "The disciples of John often fast and offer prayers, the disciples of the Pharisees also do the same, but Yours eat and drink."
And Jesus said to them, "You cannot make the attendants of the bridegroom fast while the bridegroom is with them, can you? But the days will come; and when the bridegroom is taken away from them, then they will fast in those days."
And He was also telling them a parable: "No one tears a piece of cloth from a new garment and puts it on an old garment; otherwise he will both tear the new, and the piece from the new will not match the old.
And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; otherwise the new wine will burst the skins and it will be spilled out, and the skins will be ruined. But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins. And no one, after drinking old wine wishes for new; for he says, `The old is good enough."'
NASB - Luke 5:29-32
And Levi gave a big reception for Him in his house; and there was a great crowd of tax collectors and other people who were reclining at the table with them. The Pharisees and their scribes began grumbling at His disciples, saying, "Why do you eat and drink with the tax collectors and sinners?"
And Jesus answered and said to them, "It is not those who are well who need a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance."
Matthan said:What Jesus is here telling them (and us) is that the New Testament truth cannot be contained or restrained by the Old Testament law.
Sorry, Gold Dragon, but the suspense of waiting for your answer was killing me, and I just had to respond......
Matthan (the impatient one) <J><
Gold Dragon said:Any thoughts TLE? Why do you think John's disciples asked the question they did? Actually in Luke, it is the Pharisees that ask this, and that would make more sense.
Your interpretation is insightful and right on the money. The Law was added to the Promise because of the disobedience and unbelief of Israel as a nation. Paul said that the Law was to serve as a schoolmaster until the heir was ready. The Judaic system had served it's purpose in revealing the inability of the people to live up to the level of the Law on their own.lambslove said:I think he was saying that he didn't come to reform Judaism, he came to make a whole new way of worshipping and obeying God, a new way of relating to God. Jesus couldn't have just added his commandments and teachings to the commandments and teachings they already had or made up for themselves. He didn't want to be seen as a new commentator on Jewish religion, a new Gamliel or Hillel, he wanted them to know that he was discarding the old way and making a new way, because the old way couldn't accomodate the new just like old dried-up wineskins can't accomodate new fermenting wine without destroying them.
Likewise the old cloth/new cloth illustration. The old would ruin the new, the new would be mismatched with the old and eventually destroy it.
Gold Dragon said:This is the context of the parable. Another awesome example of Jesus using symbols and allegory to reveal truth. And after Jesus answers them I wonder how many were more confused than before?
seebs said:Not quite clear about what you just spoke
Was that a parable or a very subtle joke?
The Lord's Envoy said:Been a busy day sorry for the delay.
In light of some of the other posts, I can defnitly see how you can destroy the old wineskins by putting new wine in them. Just as the Judaizers were mixing the law with grace would destroy the faith. This was an introduction that something new was here. Is that correct, did what I just say make any sense?
The Lord's Envoy said:It reveals something special about his person. Thats about as deep as I can go at 10AM.
The Lord's Envoy said:Been a busy day sorry for the delay.
In light of some of the other posts, I can defnitly see how you can destroy the old wineskins by putting new wine in them. Just as the Judaizers were mixing the law with grace would destroy the faith. This was an introduction that something new was here. Is that correct, did what I just say make any sense?
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