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Why was he hungry and not thirsty?

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Yes, At the beginning of temptations, when in the desert, does so. know why? Is it related to his divine temple-body, or do you see any other reason? I don't even know the various explanations given by the various Christian dénomination. But it all looks so fishy to me! Could you please assist me in my perplexity?
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Thank you Oldwiseguy for your answer. I had indeed never noticed that word from Luke.

No Yeshuaslavejeff, I confess I had never asked one of them, not from laziness yet, but because I behave like a free electron amid christianity. I wish I could join trustfully a community, but I fail to do so, likely for lack of convergence. Please pray for my clearly seeing the path, which Jesus yet qualified as being He, but which is may be full again of hills and ravines, of mercenaries, brambles.. before its reaching.
 
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Most likely (and I can check into this) "hungered" is idiomatically covering his need of water as well. One of the definitions of the word hunger is "to desire with greatness" and therefore, can cover great thirst even though that sounds funny in English. In Greek, the word is peinaō (G3983) and one of the words used in Strong's is "famish" which the 1828 Webster's has as one of it's entries:

2. To exhaust the strength of, by hunger or thirst; to distress with hunger.

So I think that is likely all we are seeing here.
 
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Hello Ken, thank you for your answer, who can't alas satisfy me, for I'm french, who reads his bible in french, and this nuance, with Webster's"famish" doesn't exist in my tongue where hunger(la faim, in french) is only related to food, not drink.I don't know if the translation is better in french or in english Anyway, don't bother any more: Oldwiseguy's answer gave me a precision that rules out this obviousness: Yes, in the desert, one can be more likely thirsty than famish or hungry, but the scripture doesn't say Jesus didn't drink, just that he fasted in Matthew or didn't eat in Luke (in my french bible, of course; I still have to get a KJV offered. Lol).
 
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Another false picture of this event is arbitrarily replacing the environment of the "wilderness" with the "desert". Did Jesus retreat to the same "wilderness" described in Matt 3 as the place where John the Baptist preached? If so it was hardly the desert, and might actually have been a rather pleasant place to spend 40 day away from everyone.
 
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Hi oldwiseguy,

I agree with your position wholeheartedly. This conversation makes a point of how different translations can sometimes make understanding the Scriptures problematic. Most english translations do say 'wilderness', while a few use 'desert'. The two words do conjure a different mind picture. The wilderness in Alaska and many of the forested areas of the midwest of the U.S. present an understanding of a place where there was likely plenty of water, but of course to eat one must kill an animal or pick berries and such. The desert of the midwest of the U.S. is a completely different picture. A very dry and barren place where one would likely have to dig down into the earth to get to a source of water.

So, Jesus may well have been in a place where he chose not to eat. Fasting for the glory of His Father while sojourning in that place, but still had plenty of streams of water where he could simply stoop and drink to his fill just about anytime that he'd want.

What we do know is that Jesus had just been baptized and, according to the testimony of the Scriptures, received the Holy Spirit who was described to be like a dove coming down upon himself. He then went out and spent 40 days alone in a place where he apparently fasted for the duration of that time.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted
 
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OldWise Guys answer is correct... but let me just throw in, the Greek word underlying famish or whatever your French word is, can mean being deprived of either water or food. Now we know in this case it is food, but should it ever come up again, we know, it can be either.

Blessings.
 
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I thank you for this precision, Oldwiseguy. I realize I have to grow wary with bible's french translation. Excuse-me if I can't at once adopt your explanation. I have first to give my certainty up as lost, and it's not an easy enterprise for I chose truth as one of my main values, and being so ignorant, I hope you 'll mean well my warily cautiousness not to take too quickly the plunge, for truth's sake.
The same to you, Ken
Blessings
 
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I have yet always been taught that the forty days of Jesus in wilderness or desert were referring to the forty years of Israel in the Sinaï. For the sake of truth, I must say I doubt, though the Sinaï desert, it's ok, can also be considered a place of wilderness. May be both versions can inspire us.
 
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Based on these posts, it appears that Scripture does not say whether Jesus abstained from water or not. If he did abstain from water, it was God that made it unnecessary for him drink it as we normally need to. That's what he does for people these days (when it is He who told someone to fast with no food or water).
 
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That Jesus was hungry after his sojourn indicates that God didn't relieve him of that craving. Normally fasting without either food or water is termed "afflicting your souls" (bodies) as a point of humility and contrition ( see Day of Atonement). Jesus needed neither as he always yielded to his father's will. This also indicates that Jesus was indeed 'fully' human so while he could survive without food for forty days he certainly couldn't survive without water.

Also abstaining from food but maintaining fluids allows the body complete rejuvenation often leading to surprising vitality and energy as well as profound spiritual clarity (been there, done that).
 
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Jesus would survive without water just fine if that's what the Father wanted. He does things like that for people in present times.

People tend to stop being hungry after about 6 days, which isn't to say they're comfortable, although they can be at times. The fact that Jesus was hungry means IMO that God or Satan returned hunger to him for the test/temptation.
 
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In my experience hunger abates in day two, or day three at most, and often doesn't return until a morsel of food is eaten to restore digestive function.

Jesus didn't feel hunger until after the 40 days had ended.

"Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered." (verse 2)
 
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