Why is weed a sin

Almighty's humble servant · Aug 4, 2012

stelow said:
It's not like everyone who smokes pot is a stoner, but that's the stigma some try to attach to it.

Sad thing is that some around us complain about the unemployment rate, the federal debt and deficit, yet refuse to consider that legalizing it creates no more a problem than we already have. The jails will empty, saving the country billions, the farmers would need laborers to tend the crops, employing millions, and the debt, well, some experts argue that in 5 yrs, at $1/marijuana cigarette(.5 grams) that the u.s. could buy china.

ebedmelech · Aug 7, 2012

Almighty's humble servant said:
I've never met anyone who drank wine, whiskey or beer because they wanted to quench their thirst.

Alcohol can level a head and relax a body just as good as it can change a levelheaded person into a raging maniac and break a person's body down.

Marijauna, if used in moderation, without getting STONED, is no different than having 2-3 glasses of wine for a relaxing evening talking with a friend or loved one, or even just sitting back relaxing after a long hard day.

Two things I'll say.

1.You can take a normal drink and not be altered mentally...a glass of wine, a beer, or a 1 shot mixed drink. It is clear from scripture a drink is not a sin.

2. You cannot smoke marijuana and not be altered mentally...that's just the facts. The next thing is legality. No matter how you feel about...it is against the law. As a Christian you have to obey that law....no way around that.

GodActsOnMe · Aug 7, 2012

ebedmelech said:
Two things I'll say.

1.You can take a normal drink and not be altered mentally...a glass of wine, a beer, or a 1 shot mixed drink. It is clear from scripture a drink is not a sin.

2. You cannot smoke marijuana and not be altered mentally...that's just the facts. The next thing is legality. No matter how you feel about...it is against the law. As a Christian you have to obey that law....no way around that.

Alcohol already alters your mind, whether or not you actually feel it. The problem with alcohol is that, unlike marijuana, alcohol is a chemically addictive drug. But I neither smoke nor drink, so whatever.

Almighty's humble servant · Aug 7, 2012

ebedmelech said:
Two things I'll say.

2. You cannot smoke marijuana and not be altered mentally...that's just the facts. The next thing is legality. No matter how you feel about...it is against the law. As a Christian you have to obey that law....no way around that.

First let me say that I neither drink alcohol nor smoke marijauna. I have never been good at drinking a beer or a glass of wine or a shot of hard liquor. If I drink one I'll want another, but that's just me. I struggled with alcohol for several years, and being an athlete in school, and later a Naval Petty Officer, marijuana was off limits, by pledge, and by law.
However, after a that long struggle with booze, I began smoking marijuana to help me sleep and get over the withdrawal from alcohol. It became a bad habit, and I was actually cited for possession. I mailed in my $40 ticket and it was considered less of a crime than speeding <15mph.
I have long since quit. I don't get drug tested being self employed, but I never know when work will tank and I'll be at the temp service looking for a few months work so.......No booze or dope for me.

But as for the law....it's a citation, and it won't be long, if the govt has any brains at all, that it will be fully legal and at an employers discretion should he hire a pothead.

Almighty's humble servant · Aug 7, 2012

GodActsOnMe said:
Alcohol already alters your mind, whether or not you actually feel it. The problem with alcohol is that, unlike marijuana, alcohol is a chemically addictive drug. But I neither smoke nor drink, so whatever.

thesunisout · Aug 7, 2012

Marijuana is spiritually dangerous. It opens doors to the realms and power of the enemy, and it can bring demonic forces into your life. Those who think it is harmless do not understand the spiritual implications of what they're doing, or how it is really impacting their life. Marijuana is also dangerous mentally, as it has caused many people to experience psychotic breaks and it contributes to mental illness overall. I have witnessed this first hand in the life of a loved one. Do not play around with this or any other drug.

Dreamer8 · Aug 7, 2012

Weed like all drugs is a sin against humanity cuz it turns u into an attention seeker. "hey mayne, wanna smoke a bowl?"
"naw dawgg, let's wait for the party so everyone can see us high"

Kinda reminds me of the time I told my friends lil brother his orange juice had vodka, and watched him and all his friends act "drunk"

stelow · Aug 7, 2012

Dreamer8 said:
Weed like all drugs is a sin against humanity cuz it turns u into an attention seeker. "hey mayne, wanna smoke a bowl?"
"naw dawgg, let's wait for the party so everyone can see us high"

Kinda reminds me of the time I told my friends lil brother his orange juice had vodka, and watched him and all his friends act "drunk"

If you think smoking pot turns you into an attention seeker, then what's everyone else excuse for being attention getters.

Dreamer8 · Aug 7, 2012

You can get attention without begging for it.
Shocking - I know.

stelow · Aug 7, 2012

thesunisout said:
Marijuana is spiritually dangerous. It opens doors to the realms and power of the enemy, and it can bring demonic forces into your life. Those who think it is harmless do not understand the spiritual implications of what they're doing, or how it is really impacting their life. Marijuana is also dangerous mentally, as it has caused many people to experience psychotic breaks and it contributes to mental illness overall. I have witnessed this first hand in the life of a loved one. Do not play around with this or any other drug.

I doubt pot is any more dangerous spiritually than any other mind altering drug, and it really depends on the perspective of the person who smokes it, not everyone who smokes pot goes nuts, but it is a fact that a large percentage schizophrenics self medicate with pot and nicotine.

Dreamer8 · Aug 7, 2012

Pot doesn't do a whole lot besides some dissonance and increased appetite.
But the social side-effect of people who do it to be cool causes them to evolve into needy attention seekers.

As far as spirituality, maybe God could use a few laughs.

stelow · Aug 7, 2012

Dreamer8 said:
Pot doesn't do a whole lot besides some dissonance and increased appetite.
But the social side-effect of people who do it to be cool causes them to evolve into needy attention seekers.

As far as spirituality, maybe God could use a few laughs.

I smoked pot some when I was going through chemotherapy for cancer, it helped a little with the increased appetite, because chemo kills your desire to eat. I went from 245 down to 170 while going through cancer. Nothing they were giving me helped me with want to eat.

thesunisout · Aug 8, 2012

stelow said:
I doubt pot is any more dangerous spiritually than any other mind altering drug, and it really depends on the perspective of the person who smokes it, not everyone who smokes pot goes nuts, but it is a fact that a large percentage schizophrenics self medicate with pot and nicotine.

Well, like I said before, I've seen it happen and I know what it can do. The bi-polar and schitzoeffective people I've known have made their symptons worse by smoking it, not better. It puts many people into the hospital

In any case, in the United States anyway, it is a sin because its against the law. That in itself should end the discussion for US citizens.

stelow · Aug 8, 2012

On a Federal level, yes it is against the law, but on a state level, not all states is it against the law.

Places that have decriminalized non-medical cannabis in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

thesunisout · Aug 8, 2012

stelow said:
On a Federal level, yes it is against the law, but on a state level, not all states is it against the law.

Places that have decriminalized non-medical cannabis in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Federal law supercedes state law (see the supremacy clause: Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and federal preemption: Federal preemption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and thus we are obligated as Christians to follow the law of the land and obey federal law.

hopeinGod · Aug 10, 2012

I grew up in SW PA, a very blue-collar area where alcoholics dominated the scenery. Throughout the county were many fraternal organizations, the primary social outlet for adults. Understandably so, national fads were slow in gaining a foothold where I spent my boyhood. At seventeen, I joined the Navy.

It wasn't until I left home that I learned about pot and hash, and not while I was in the States. In the Middle East, hash was easily acquired. Beer halls, too, were plentiful. There were many alcoholics aboard the vessel on which I was stationed, in the 70s. So in control were the drinkers, that is was customary to stop in Barbados or another Caribbean island on our return to the States so the men could buy as many bottles of spirits they wanted -- all while a hidden population of tokers hid their stash.

Many sailors performed just as well high as they did sober -- at least that's what it seemed to me.

After I met the Lord in 1972, I quit street drugs. I no longer feel the need to mind alterate. The stresses that led me to weed and other things, I now give to the Lord. And besides, the attachment to getting high can be expensive and it surely doesn't satisfy one's deepest cravings. BTW, pot smoking is a leading cause of gynecomastia, or breast pain, in men.

stelow · Aug 10, 2012

Gynecomastia can be corrected with a simple outpatient surgery. Smoking causes many cancers, and they can be deadly.

Lenity · Aug 11, 2012

It's not a sin. God invented it for a reason, however I should like to think that He's allowed its strict regulation in society because we're not yet mature enough to understand how to use it with discretion and in the proper situations. It is illegal in the US, therefore it is a sin in that we are to obey the laws of man unless they conflict with the laws of God (Romans 13). There is a time and place for everything, and if God had no purpose for things like opium or marijuana they wouldn't exist. Good luck trying to get brainwashed conservative Christians to understand that though. Heck, the last time I suggested this concept on this forum I got accused of having an addiction despite the fact that I clearly stated it's not okay to use these herbs and plants in the US and that I do not use any drugs.

Gnarwhal · Aug 11, 2012

I have mixed feelings about weed. I've never smoked it, and I haven't known too many people that have, although I've recently discovered a couple of my old friends have picked it up. I'm not a fan of it mainly because the smell gives me a headache, and the legal and moral gray area that I feel it occupies.

My wife has a friend who's 90-year-old mother passed away and her 85-year-old father slipped into a depression which got deeper when he was diagnosed with bladder cancer. He wasn't eating (chemo was souring his sense of taste), losing weight and had an increasingly bad temprament, but then his doctor prescribed him cannibus and since he's taken it his appetites returned and he's mellowed out over a lot of things. So I can see some of the merit of using it in a medical capacity, unfortunately it's "medical uses" are exploited far too often by recreational users—something I don't condone anymore than the recreational use of prescription painkillers.

My mom works for an optometrist and was diagnosed with glaucoma about a year ago, she would never touch the stuff but I think I could understand how it would be beneficial.

toLiJC · Aug 11, 2012

it is wrong to be brought harm to some human, so, if some usage of some opiate can be a cause of an infliction of harm to some human, then the same usage is not safe, so, not that the opiates are bad by themselves, but their wrong usage can be dangerous for the human life

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