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isn't that commonly referred to as "cherry picking"?
i love the saying "God said it. I believe it. That settles it!!"
That was my point. If you accept the Bible as true, then one has to believe that the Creation account is true, as a matter of faith and belief. Depending purely on reason, logic, and empirical evidence, one has to say "I don't know" in terms of either evolution, or Creation. What is claimed to be true depends on one's axioms --- the unproven and unprovable assumptions that one makes. The recognition of those assumptions, and one's willingness to accept that they are unproven and unprovable, is why one takes the results of those axioms on faith, and faith alone. If one only accepts that only part of the Bible is true, then what part, or parts are true? The parts that are comfortable? The parts that don't require one to admit to a belief system? Some other subset? Why are those parts true? Why are the other parts not true? In the end, it boils down to: "Do you _know_ what you believe?" and "Do you know why you believe what you think you believe?". Maybe one should also throw in: "Is what you think you believe, what you actually believe?"If you don't believe the creation account in the Bible, what parts of the Bible do you believe? None of it? Some of it?
When we look at the Creation account in Genesis in its context, there is no other meaning that can be implied other than God created the universe and everything in it in six consecuative 24 hour days. When did this occur? What was the mechanics of these daily events initiated by God's word? We do not know. The Bible gives no information on the age of the earth and universe.
A question has been asked of the OP.....why hasn't he come back and answered it? I am curious to know his response.
Oops - the question was asked of a different poster - I need to read better. Anyway - it could be asked of the OP. What parts of the bible do you believe? Creation isn't a big stretch when looking at ressurection.
All of it, of course! I've been looking into YEC theory. It seems like I never really gave it a chance. Let's prove it and shock the world!
Shocking? Oh, indubidably!The proof will come riding in the clouds on a white horse and will be seen all over the world at once. It is also written, that those who don't presently believe and promote their 'scientific' theories and agendas, won't believe when confronted with the proof either. We already know the end of the story. Just when the story will end, that's the question.
Shocking? Oh, indubidably!The proof will come riding in the clouds on a white horse and will be seen all over the world at once. It is also written, that those who don't presently believe and promote their 'scientific' theories and agendas, won't believe when confronted with the proof either. We already know the end of the story. Just when the story will end, that's the question.
And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground the LORD God made to spring up every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was in the midst of the garden
He put Adam in the garden before he put plants in there...so either the trees grew super-fast or they were created full grown.
And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east, and there he put the man whom he had formed.
When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up
Plants were on the earth yes...not necessarily in the garden. At least that's the way I read this..
I read it chronologically (no plant on the earth had sprung up). Being a farmer, a plant does not grow if it hasn't been planted because it doesn't exist there. The verse above that one is
Which means to me that the rest of the earth had already been planted before he "planted a garden in Eden". But, if I read the verse in order, God placed man in the garden before the plants (in the garden of Eden) "sprang up".
Yes...but it was before they had sprung up (yes...ok...they we there but not visible). You know how long it takes an apple tree to bear fruit from a seedling?
...But it was a valley of mere earth, rock and water; there was not a tree, not a bush, not a blade of grass to be seen. The earth was of many colours: they were fresh, hot and vivid...
The Lion was pacing to and fro about that empty land and singing his new song. It was softer and more lilting than the song by which he had called up the stars and the sun; a gentle, rippling music. And as He walked and sang the valley grew green with grass. It spread out from the Lion like a pool. It ran up the sides of the little hills like a wave. In a few minutes it was creeping up the lower slopes of the distant mountains, making that young world every moment softer. The light wind could now be heard ruffling the grass. Soon there were other things besides grass. The higher slopes grew dark with heather. Patches of rougher and more bristling green appeared in the valley. Digory did not know what they were until one began coming up quite close to him. It was a little, spiky thing that threw out dozens of arms and covered these arms with green and grew larger at the rate of about an inch every two seconds. There were dozens of these things all round him now. When they were nearly as tall as himself he saw what they were. "trees!" he exclaimed.
Yes...but it was before they had sprung up (yes...ok...they we there but not visible). You know how long it takes an apple tree to bear fruit from a seedling?
The way I see it...Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. 8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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