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In that those 4 people pay with their lives for the sake of you leaving the scene with a "I didnt get involved" feeling. Maybe sacrifice isnt the right word for that.
Thats completely un forseeable. You can only work with reality as you apprehend it.....For all the "lever-pullers", let's suppose that the one innocent tied to the track doesn't think it's a good day to die. (Say, he has a sick wife with COVID and 8 children to care for. If that's not a good enough reason to want to live, make up one that you think does.)
Fortunately, he's armed and with his one free hand, he can bring his weapon to bear. You, the bystander, yell out, "I must pull the lever!". You put your hand on the lever and the one on the tracks shoots you dead. Now 6 people died.
A person capable of saving lives in front of you.
Paradoxes about infinity probably wouldnt come to mind when you have the opportunity to steer a peril toward a less populated part of town.What value do you assign to one life?
The value of one innocent human life is infinite, ie., innumerate. Five infinities are not greater than one infinity....
Here it is, again:
I am asking why you believe this? Why saving five lives is better than saving one?
Because I value lives. And I value reducing suffering. Most people do. We get together and call those things "better". If youre looking for an additional cosmic backstop to those values, ask one of the Christians.
Once you apprehend the options before you, you cannot un-apprehend them. At that point you will decide for one option or the other. There's no way out of that, unless youre a robot.
I'd argue you killed 5 by inaction.
I am not looking for anything but why you believe killing one is better than five. This answer is sufficient, thanks.Because I value lives. And I value reducing suffering. Most people do. We get together and call those things "better". If youre looking for an additional cosmic backstop to those values, ask one of the Christians.
Uhhh ... this is not reality; it's a hypothetical.Thats completely un forseeable. You can only work with reality as you apprehend it
In a hypothetical, one has plenty of time to do the right thing.Paradoxes about infinity probably wouldnt come to mind when you have the opportunity to steer a peril toward a less populated part of town.
I'd argue that it's not part of the hypothetical (though if you don't throw the lever because of legal ramifications that's an answer I would understand.) But inaction is a choice and action in and of itself. A life guard who dosn't intervene in someone's drowning is just as responsible for thier death.But you’d be wrong since I wasn’t involved at all. And another thing, you could probably be charged with murder or at the very least voluntary manslaughter for pulling the lever since it is premeditated and intentional.
This hypothetical takes place in reality, hypothetically.Uhhh ... this is not reality; it's a hypothetical.
In a hypothetical, one has plenty of time to do the right thing.
Here it is, again:
I didnt say that.Oh, so you don't know why human life has value?
So the lever-puller is a possible hero to the five and an unjust aggressor to the one ... until in self-defense the one shoots him dead. But one act cannot be good and evil in the same act.This hypothetical takes place in reality, hypothetically.
I agree that when you steer your doomed plane into the few rather than the many, the few would be very upset about it. I dont think theyd have a case that your action is unjust tho.So the level-puller is a possible hero to the five and an unjust aggressor to the one ... until in self-defense the one shoots him dead. But one act cannot be good and evil in the same act.
Wrong hypothetical. Meanwhile, back at the train station ...I agree that when you steer your doomed plane into the few rather than the many, the few would be very upset about it. I dont think theyd have a case that your action is unjust tho.
Same difference. Is it ok to actively steer a peril away from the many towards the few instead? Thats the issue, which is served well enough by either hypothetical. Probably better by the airplane one just because its less bizarre.Wrong hypothetical. Meanwhile, back at the train station ...
Same difference. Is it ok to actively steer a peril away from the many towards the few instead? Thats the issue, which is served well enough by either hypothetical. Probably better by the airplane one just because its less bizarre.
If the hypothetical is a hang up lets just go right to the principle that many here disagree with me on: Is it ok to actively steer a peril away from the many towards the few instead?
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