Why is SDA so obsessed with the Sabbath?

myst33 said:

Argue with the website, it was a quotation.

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It states nothing other than being formed around the same time.Two different churches that have nothing in common other than the time they formed. 1844 the Great Disappointment was a wide spread religious movement.

The SDA church didn’t official form until 1863 and the great disappointment started by a baptist minister.

Take care.

SabbathBlessings said:

It states nothing other than being formed around the same time.

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Wrong.

"Both Christian denominations stemmed from the same religious movement...The similarities between the two groups can be traced back to their origins."
What is the Difference Between Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses? - Adventist Guide

myst33 said:

Wrong.

"Both Christian denominations stemmed from the same religious movement...The similarities between the two groups can be traced back to their origins."
What is the Difference Between Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses? - Adventist Guide

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That what I just said, 1844 was a wide spread religion movement that formed many churches around the same time. Are you saying every company and every church that formed in the mid to late 1800’s are the same? The JW and SDA and vastly different beliefs, started by different people have different doctrines. SDA is a bible believing church.

SabbathBlessings said:

That what I just said

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No, you said:

SabbathBlessings said:

It states nothing other than being formed around the same time.

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SabbathBlessings said:

1844 was a world wide religion movement

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Northern America is not the whole world.

myst33 said:

No, you said:



Northern America is not the whole world.

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It was a widespread movement across many denominations. Things written afterwards does not reflect what really happened. The point is the SDA church and the JW are different denominations and have nothing to do with each other other than being formed around the same time.

It’s like saying if Ford Motors formed in 1844 and since GMC also formed around 1850’s they are the same company. Saying it doesn’t make it true.


Take care.

SabbathBlessings said:

It was a widespread movement across many denominations. Things written afterwards does not reflect what really happened. The point is the SDA church and the JW are different denominations and have nothing to do with each other other than being formed around the same time.

It’s like saying if Ford Motors formed in 1844 and and so did GMC they are the same company. Saying it doesn’t make it true.


Take care.

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You do not seem to understand that having the same origins in the same movement is not just about year.

Do you know what a movement is?

To your example, if BMW had split into BMY a BMZ, these two companies would have the same origins like you and JW have. The year is not relevant.

myst33 said:

You do not seem to understand that having the same origins in the same movement is not just about year.

Do you know what a movement is?

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I know what a movement is and many denominations came together in 1844 for the great disappointment that was started by a Baptist minister who misunderstood the scripture and predicted the second coming of Jesus. Out of this movement several churches formed that were unrelated other than all believing that Jesus was coming in 1844 which included churches from a lot of different denominations. The SDA church did not form until 1863.


Do you have scripture you would like to talk about?

SabbathBlessings said:

Do you have scripture you would like to talk about?

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No, I already know your explanations. Its not the first time talking with SDA, for me.

SabbathBlessings said:

It was a widespread movement across many denominations.

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Its not the meaning of the "worldwide" term. Do you know what "worldwide" means?

myst33 said:

Its not the meaning of the "worldwide" term. Do you know what "worldwide" means?

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There were people from around the world, but the term I should have used was wide spread. I have since update my post. Take care.

SabbathBlessings said:

There were people from around the world, but the term I should have used was wide spread. I have since update my post. Take care.

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Wide spread in the Northern America, in some protestant circles.

myst33 said:

The similarities between the two groups can be traced back to their origins. Both SDA, or Seventh Day Adventists, and Jehovah’s Witnesses were born out of “The Great Disappointment” of 1844. During this event, preacher William Miller believed that the Second Coming of Christ was near.
When Jesus failed to appear, his followers split into different groups, including those of SDA and Jehovah’s Witnesses, among others. What is the Difference Between Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses? - Adventist Guide

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Why fill the thread full of misinformation? You know your only blessing us *Matthew 5:11. Seems sad people need to seek to provide misinformation comparing us to religions we have nothing in common with as far as our faith is concerned rather than wanting to discuss the scripture. I guess this is the aim of this thread because if we start discussing scripture than the truth of Gods' Word would be seen. That would be the challenge I am putting out there. Let's discuss scripture and pray God will guide us into the truth of His Word.

Take Care

myst33 said:

Argue with the website "adventistguide.com", it was a quotation - as indicated by italics and by the source.

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Your website is misinformation and not SDA so why post misinformation trying to make us look as though we have the same beliefs as JW/LDS when we believe no such thing rather than talk scripture and test what we believe with Gods' Word?

myst33 said:

No, I already know your explanations. Its not the first time talking with SDA, for me.

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Then why provide misinformation from websites instead of discussing scripture?

LoveGodsWord said:

Your website is misinformation

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Prove it.

Lost4words said:

A decent and informative read:
The Lord’s Day Replaced the Sabbath

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There is not a single scripture that says that "the Lords day" of Revelation 1:10 is Sunday or the first day of the week. Just like there is not a single scripture that says Gods 4th commandments of the 10 commandments that give us a knowledge of what sin is when broken (Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4) has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a holy day in honor of the resurrection of Jesus. These are both man-made teachings and traditions not supported by Gods' Word that have led many away from Gods Word to break the commandments of God.

Jesus says in Matthew 15:3-9 that if we follow man-made teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God we are not worshiping God. This of course begs the question if we believe the words of Jesus. If we are following man-made teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God who are we worshiping God or men? Jesus says we are not worshiping God. Something to pray about I guess.

According to the scriptures God's has His people in every Church living up to all the light that God has revealed to them *John 10:16 but God is calling us all out from following man-made teachings and traditions back to the pure Word of God *Revelation 18:1-5. In times of ignorance when we do not know any better God winks at but when he gives us a knowledge of the truth of His Word he calls all men everywhere to believe and follow what His Word says (Acts of the Apostles 17:30-31; Hebrews 10:26-27).

Jesus says that the hour is coming and now is that the true worshipers will worship the father in Spirit and in truth. God is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24) If we are not worshiping God by following man-made teachings and traditions of men that lead us to break the commandments of God (God's 4th commandment) Jesus says we are both not worshiping God in Matthew 15:3-9 and not worshiping the father in John 4:23-24. God is calling us all wherever we might be to come out from following man-made teachings and traditions to believe and follow what His Word says. God's sheep will hear His voice (the Word) and follow him. Those who do not hear will not follow because they are not His sheep *John 10:26-27.

Take Care.

MMXX said:

Prove it.

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No problem I have read a lot of it and know what I believe. Go look for the owner of the website. Bet you can't find it. It looks like someone's blog site.

klutedavid said:

Don't tell me your under the law also?

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No, i am under the table at the mo.

LoveGodsWord said:

Your website is misinformation and not SDA so why post misinformation trying to make us look as though we have the same beliefs as JW/LDS when we believe no such thing rather than talk scripture and test what we believe with Gods' Word?

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You can find it in other sources, if you like. For example wikipedia.

LoveGodsWord said:

Then why provide misinformation from websites instead of discussing scripture?

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What is the misinformation?

You personally have like thousand threads here on CC discussiong your SDA theology, so I see no need to do it here, too.